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To: Tenacious 1

No, I think maybe you missed my point. Lack of evidence is not reason for atheists’ lack of faith. Lack of faith is the reason that they require evidence. Your example is a good one. You look at the moon and see “I am God and I exist” because you have faith. An atheist, who lacks faith, sees a ball of rock that arose from natural processes. They would need to see direct evidence of God before they would believe.

As far as science goes, I think you are reading your religion into science. The scope of science is limited, and scientists are the first ones who will tell you this (and I am a scientist myself, so I do know what I’m talking about). Science does not and cannot make value judgements. For example, how humans came to be on earth is a valid question in evolutionary theory. Why people are on earth is not. What the early universe looked like and the changes it underwent as it developed is a valid question for big bang theory. Why and to what purpose it happened is not.

The problem many have is that, while science does not make value judgements, many scientists do. What they are doing when they do so is not science, however. If a particular scientist states that evolution shows that God doesn’t exist, that’s not a scientific finding, but rather an opinion of a particular scientist. You would not say that Christianity is to blame when a priest molests a child, right? Certainly such actions are against all moral teachings of Christianity. Not everything a priest (or pastor, etc) says or does is reflective of Christian thought. In similar vein, not everything a scientist does or says is reflective of scientific thought.


86 posted on 08/07/2013 6:12:21 AM PDT by stremba
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To: stremba

Stremba,

Well stated. I’m impressed with the depth and sincerity of this dialogue. I believe I have learned something in a different perspective.

I now see a chicken and egg conundrum concerning the source of an individual’s “lack of faith” in a deity.

As I stated previously, I have reconciled my faith with science. I have no conflicts and believe they are related to the extent that science can be explained as the how God did (or does) it.


87 posted on 08/07/2013 7:08:54 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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