Posted on 08/03/2013 3:02:27 PM PDT by ebb tide
.... Therefore, Francis is being naive when, he says, referring to the alleged presence of a lobby of gay priests within the Vatican ranks “that the problem isn’t having the orientation. The problem is making the lobby.” The fact is, that any group with a strong common identity is a natural lobby which effects an organization. ....Pope Francis’s remarks have implications for the church far beyond a pastoral approach to homosexual priests.
“But getting back to the subject of marriage for Catholic priests, perhaps parents would not be disinclined to have sons join the priesthood if they could have marriage and families. I lean towards this helping rather than hurting the church and, as I said, may help to ameliorate the need to accept men who have homosexual tendencies and the subsequent problems they bring to their parishes.”
This one of the very few areas where some conservative nonCatholic Christians and all liberal Catholics will agree.
Among Catholics, liberal wackadoo Catholics are the ones that really can’t stand the discipline of celibacy and the prohibition of birth control within marriage the most. Try to find one Catholic who digs things like priestesses, ‘gay marriage,’ remarriage and divorce, and gay clergy ‘in relationships’ who also really likes and wants to continue the discipline of celibacy and the teaching about birth control. I have yet to see it or read about it anyhow.
Freegards
I don't think it is correct or fair to compare "conservative non-Catholic Christians" to "all liberal wackadoo Catholics". I asked the question WRT celibacy in the priesthood as a possible way to address the problem of homosexual abuse caused by homosexual priests. I am NOT telling the Catholic Church how it should rule about the law of celibacy. Conservative non-Catholic Christians, you will find, overwhelmingly are against women priests/pastors, gay marriage, gay clergy and abortion and most do NOT support unfettered divorce and remarriage.
“I lean towards this helping rather than hurting the church and, as I said, may help to ameliorate the need to accept men who have homosexual tendencies and the subsequent problems they bring to their parishes.”
Liberal Catholics are the Catholics that would agree with this.
“Conservative non-Catholic Christians, you will find, overwhelmingly are against women priests/pastors, gay marriage, gay clergy and abortion and most do NOT support unfettered divorce and remarriage.”
I know I will find this, that’s why I said that it is one of the very few areas where some conservative nonCatholic Christians and all liberal Catholics will agree. Another is the teaching concerning birth control within marriage.
Freegards
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