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To: count-your-change
here was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
75 posted on 08/02/2013 6:48:21 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (, but you are right about the mood, tense)
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To: pastorbillrandles

You do understand this was a parable as Jesus’ own experience shows.


79 posted on 08/02/2013 7:38:32 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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Same thought I had when reading Post #72. What needs to be brought out here (Lk. 16:19-31) is that two separate compartments of Sheol are indicated here, "Abraham' bosom" vs a hot place, Hades. Another name for "Abraham's bosom" is Paradise (Lk. 23:43).

CYC needs to consider the transfer of Paradise to Heaven after Jesus' resurrection, through the reconciliation transaction by our High Priest at the Mercy Seat in The True Holiest-Of-All in Heaven (of which the Mercy Seat in the tabernacle/first temple was only a pattern).

By your leave, brother ...

Yes, so far, (hu)mans' bodies go to the grave for now.

Did Lazarus and the rich man not have bodies of some sort but not their flesh bodies? I presume so.

83 posted on 08/02/2013 10:36:23 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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