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1 posted on 08/01/2013 1:40:40 PM PDT by NYer
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I can totally envision satan whispering in Saul’s ear as he came up with this list.


2 posted on 08/01/2013 1:43:52 PM PDT by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 08/01/2013 1:44:08 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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The guy dedicated that book to Satan. I’m sure he had a problem with Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and religious believers in general.


4 posted on 08/01/2013 1:53:55 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Before we all cower in fear of Alinsky, let us consider what he wrote that was new or not self-evident.

Not an effing thing.

He was a putz. His crap is old news, was old when he wrote it.

His book serves as an example of commie organization of thought, not anything new or groundbreaking.

Shun him, laugh at him.. but never fear his recycled bullshit.


5 posted on 08/01/2013 1:58:42 PM PDT by humblegunner
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Thanks for the added links too! I learned about Alinsky as a very young man. The Pastor of our Catholic parish signed us up to participate in a “community organization” that was to address some of the local concerns (i.e. wealthy developers getting special breaks and advantages that were working to the detriment of a lot of normal folks).

My grandfather, who was politically VERY well-connected in the Democrat Party, knew all about Alinsky and was repulsed by him. He and my mother led a virtual revolt which eventually forced this Pastor to back down and withdraw our Church from this organization.

I was probably no more than ten, but my mom and grandfather made sure to enlighten me about this guy and his dangerous philosophy.


6 posted on 08/01/2013 1:58:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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If I wait for the Catholics to circle the wagons and fight back like hair-shirted Jesuits against the slings and arrows of the vast unwashed agnostic left I will be either dead or far too old.

Catholics have been beaten into mush by the likes of Vatican II and weasely phony churchmen planted by an evil cabal of agnostics and communists.

This present pope will do absolutely no good as he’s been and is part of the problem.

Popes succeeding Pius XII issue plenty of encyclicals, bulls, speeches, homilies and what-not, but, unfortunately, they are impossible to parse. They are merely planted on the throne of Peter to placate those who look upon church as a place to gather on Sunday to be entertained.


7 posted on 08/01/2013 2:02:55 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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Saul Alinsky’s 13 “power tactics” are inconsistent with Catholic teaching and prove to be anti-Catholic as you will see below.

The author fails to provide even a single example of how they are inconsistent, let alone "anti-Catholic".

8 posted on 08/01/2013 2:09:47 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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Saul was a genius.. look at what his tactics have done!!!!.
They’ve elected “the black Barney Fife” as President..
and purged and refilled most federal agencys with their minions..

AND jounalism-jacked most of the media..
To say Alinsky was crazy makes YOU look stupid..


11 posted on 08/01/2013 3:35:24 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Actually, I think the post-conciliar Popes have picked up quite a few of Saul’s tactics:

1.“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

Tell your enemy you don’t have the Power. That you’re not the One, True, Church and outside It, there’s no salvation.

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.

Engage in false ecumenism and inter-religous dialogue seeking a “united” true church.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

Ridicule Tradition. Ridicule traditionalists as “Pelagians.

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with tactic.”

Throw wild WYD rock Masses.

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday.“

See No. 5 and ridicule TLM’s.

8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

Remove the head of a religious order and command that same religious order to no longer offer the TLM, in violation of SP.

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

Supposed “excommunications”.

10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.”

See No. 5

11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.”

See No. 5


14 posted on 08/01/2013 5:59:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
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