Dispelling the Anti-Mormon Myth

The Fledgling's Tale ^ | 7/31/13 | Jen

[Elsie]

Chapter Nine is called "The Expanding Church."

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Mr. Millet:

 

I don't think we can ever transcend Joseph Smith or consider him to be a valued personality, but now we'll move on.

I don't think you'll see that among believers in the faith, because there are too many other things that came from him

that are the reasons why we do what we do and we are what we are. That there are unanswered questions, to be sure.

That there are things that I'm as anxious as the next guy to learn more detail on, I really want to know. But in the interim,

 it really doesn't, doesn't trouble me.

We're in the religion-making business, as you intimated earlier, only for a short time, I mean, compared to the

Christian church, which has been at this for a couple of millennia. We're about halfway to Nicaea.

And so, and so in that sense — I remember a very tender moment. I was speaking with — I've been invited

to the Salt Lake Theological Seminary, basically an Evangelical seminary, to discuss a book I had done on Jesus.

And they had read it, and they wanted me to come and just respond to questions.

And it was, it was a very enjoyable couple of hours.

 

The very last question that was asked by one of my friends there was this one.

 

He said, 'Bob, what can we do for you?'

 

And I, I wasn't ready for that question. I said, 'What do you mean?'

 

He said, 'What can we, as Evangelicals, do for our Mormon friends?'

 

And I, I guess my mind could have gone a hundred different ways, but what I came back with was this.

 

I said, 'Boy, I appreciate you asking that. I don't think I've ever been asked that.'

 

But, but I said, 'Try this. Cut us a little slack, will you? Give us a little time.

We're in the religion-making business, and this takes time. It takes centuries.

 

And, and trying to explain the faith and articulate the faith, that doesn't come over night.

We've really only been about that for 20 or 30 years.'

 

 

http://being.publicradio.org/programs/insidemormonfaith/transcript.shtml

[Elsie]

Some fellow named Ezra Taft Benson

THIS guy???

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In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Mormons cannot get to the first cause because they believe God was once a man.

http://youtu.be/COJ0ED1mV7s

Video is about How to know God is.

One of the saddest issues for ex-Mormons is how many of them become agnostic or atheist. Sometimes militantly atheistic.

[svcw]

I missed your reply on this “hate” you speak of, please ping me.

[mrreaganaut]

I guess I’ll be anti-Mormon until they say otherwise, kinda like everybody on FR is racist for opposing Obama. ‘Haters gonna hate’, as they say on the street. ;)

[Elsie]

Looks like our Mormon FRiends have slipped away under cover of darkness...

[BlueDragon]

Looks like our Mormon FRiends have slipped away under cover of darkness...

Hello darkness, my old friend? [Sound of Silence]

...silence like a cancer grows? They've got that part fairly down pat. That, and people talking without speaking --- in that most of what is said says nothing, does not directly address issues raised much at all, but is rather just so much diversion and avoidance-talk.

[Elsie]

That, and people talking without speaking --- in that most of what is said says nothing, does not directly address issues raised much at all, but is rather just so much diversion and avoidance-talk.

"You've got to be taught,
Before it's too late.
Before you are six, or seven or eight...

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Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

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Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[Burkean]

I don’t mean to imply that hostility is found here—I don’t think that is what the original post was referring to. I’ve yet to see anybody trying to sell for a profit any of their ideas here. That is what I call “industry.”

[JRochelle]

Do you really think that a lot of them have that superior opinion of themselves?

[Elsie]

Yes.

But; if not of themselves; then of their chosen religious organization.