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To: dangus
"Apparently, that Freeper Vanity is 100% baloney. I’ve posted five points where what juliosevero claims is happening seems to be unbelievable, and asked juliosevero to provide any documentation which can support his assertions, with no response."

Well that settles that then.

Bishops’ comments on abortion spark debate in Brazilian campaign
October 24, 2010

"Analysts say the bishops’ position on the matter is a delicate one, since the Catholic Church has always supported the Workers Party and was one of the social bases for the party’s creation in the 1980s. The Catholic Church has always walked hand in hand with the Workers Party on issues such as landless peasants and agrarian rights."

http://www.catholicreview.org/article/life/bishops-comments-on-abortion-spark-debate-in-brazilian-campaign#sthash.HSx9yZ2C.dpuf

"The Workers' Party (Portuguese: Partido dos Trabalhadores, PT) is a centre-left[4] political party in Brazil. Launched in 1980, it is recognized as one of the largest and most important left-wing movements of Latin America. It governs at the federal level in a coalition government with several other parties since January 1, 2003. After the 2010 parliamentary election, PT became the largest party in the Chamber of Deputies and the second largest in the Federal Senate for the first time ever.[5] Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the President with the highest approval rating in the history of the country, is PT's most prominent member.[6] His successor, Dilma Rousseff, is also a member of PT; she took office on January 1, 2011. The party's symbols are the red flag with a white star in the center; the five-pointed red star, inscribed with the initials "PT" in the center; and the Workers Party' s anthem.[7] Workers' Party's TSE (Supreme Electoral Court) Identification Number is 13.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Party_%28Brazil%29

President Dilma Rousseff and Pope Francis

11 posted on 07/31/2013 6:53:28 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
Please try to stick to the topic at hand.

None of that addresses the issue at hand, which was the allegation that Brazil is about to legalize abortion. In fact, the governing coalition is moving to prohibite the destruction of artifically conceived embryos, and babies deemed incapable of surviving birth. The bishops have repeatedly urged that Brazilians may not vote for pro-abortion candidates. The bishops' conference statement was controversial not because it instructed Brazilians that they could not be faithful Catholics and vote pro-abortion, but because characterized all Workers' Party candidates as pro-abortion.

As for the implication that the Catholic church is Leftist, it is true that Catholics were a key constitutency of the Workers' Party. Being a predominantly Catholic country, any successful political party must have Catholics as a key constituency. However, as Cardinal Bergoglio, Pope Francis' opposition to such Leftist strains in the Latin American church made him chief target of such Leftists. Claims which turned out to be false that Bergoglio was involved with war crimes for the right-wing military junta which had run Argentina probably cost him the papacy in 2005, when Pope Benedict was chosen instead. As such, he is believed to have finished second, nonetheless.

And still no documentation to support the accusation.

13 posted on 07/31/2013 8:00:03 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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