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To: CynicalBear

The Trinity is a man made concept. It is not at all clear from the plain sense of scripture. Everything Christians believe is based at least in part on interpretation of scripture. The debate is not about what is or is not in scripture but whose interpretation is correct.


129 posted on 07/29/2013 5:57:27 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
>> The Trinity is a man made concept. It is not at all clear from the plain sense of scripture.<<

Do you really not read and study scripture? Here are some passages you can start with.

Jesus Christ claimed to be God, the Creator of the cosmos, the one and only way by which we can enter into Heaven.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 8:12: Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I AM the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." When Jesus said, "I am the Aleph and the Tav," He was saying I am the Word, (or logos, written Word) that was in the beginning. In the first line of the Torah, in the first line of the first verse in Genesis, He was there with God! He was in the beginning and all things were created through Him.

1 Timothy 1:16 But I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life. 17 To the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Not at all clear? It’s pretty clear to a Holy Spirit filled Christian.

135 posted on 07/29/2013 6:11:28 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
"The debate is not about what is or is not in scripture but whose interpretation is correct."

Please forgive the intrusion but the above stood out to me as I've commented on a few occasions that many seem far more interested in who's the interpretation is rather than what the interpretation is.Would that it was as you've expressed but the reality is that when push comes to shove,many RCs here will defer to "yoipos" as though it were a magic sword.

grace and peace to you

146 posted on 07/30/2013 5:04:23 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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