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To: ronnietherocket3

You have pointed out where things in your superstitious chants come from, but you ascribe meaning they don’t have. I don’t have time today for a lengthy biblical analysis of saying Hail Marys. But would it matter? Do you really care biblical fidelity or are you more in defending Rome and your experiences? Anything I say will almost certainly be countered by some Catholic source. God has to open your eyes to the truth. I can’t teach you a thing.

So for now let’s agree to disagree. You keep on praying and chanting about and to this “holy Mary.” Nevermind the Bible teaches that the Lord alone is holy, nevermind that the “Queen of Heaven” was the false God of the pagan Babylonians (see Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-19, 25), nevermind Christ forbid empty repetitive prayer (Matthew 6:7).

“Who will not fear you, Lord, and bring glory to your name? For you alone are holy. All nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed.” (Revelation 15:4)

He alone is holy!


34 posted on 07/27/2013 10:19:36 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

I have seen no reason to believe that Rome stands in contradiction to biblical fidelity. In fact the Catholic Church compiled what we call the New Testament.

Part of the Rosary is “Glory be to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.”

There is an element of the Rosary that is frequently ignored re Matthew 6:7. The short Rosary is composed of 5 decades, and 4 short Rosaries comprise a long Rosary. Each decade of the Rosary corresponds to mystery of Christ.

Joyful Mysteries:
1) Annunciation to Mary
2) Visitation to Elizabeth
3) Birth of Jesus
4) Presentation in the Temple
5) Finding in the Temple

Sorrowful Mysteries:
1) Our Lord agonizing in the Garden
2) Our Lord beaten at the post
3) Our Lord humiliated
4) Our Lord carrying the cross
5) Our Lord Crucified

Luminous Mysteries:
1) Baptism
2) Wedding at Cana
3) Proclamation of the Kingdom of God
4) Transfiguration of Our Lord
5) The Last Supper

Glorious Mysteries:
1) The Resurrection
2) The Ascension
3) The Descent of the Holy Spirit
4) The Assumption of Mary
5) The Coronation of Mary

During the decade corresponding to a particular Mystery, one is supposed to meditate on the Mystery. What one meditates on is largely personal choice; for example I sometimes meditate on what appear to be contradictions between two Bible verses relating to that Mystery.

Claiming the Rosary is repetitive is true. Claiming it is empty is not.

Of these 20 Mysteries, 19 are found in the Bible; Glorious 4 is not explicitly in the Bible. 17 are explicitly about our Salvation or an aspect of God; Luminous 2, Glorious 4 and 5 do not appear (on their face) to be about our Salvation.

The Queen of Heaven in Jeremiah is by nature opposed to God. Honoring her is by default turning away from God. However, Mary is not opposed to God, in fact she turned to God.

The woman in Rev 11 has a crown. Crowns are associated with Royalty. Since this person is a woman, she is either a Queen or a Princess.


35 posted on 07/27/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: .45 Long Colt
Amen!

The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that lives for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure they are and were created. (Revelation 4:9-11)

And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing. And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be to him that sits on the throne, and to the Lamb for ever and ever. (Revelation 5:11-13)

166 posted on 07/28/2013 8:45:17 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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