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A Happy Birthday for the Heidelberg Catechism
Out of The Horse's Mouth ^ | Jul.25, 2013 | Michael Horton

Posted on 07/25/2013 10:44:56 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: D-fendr
There are those that are interested in what's true, and there are those that have other agendas.

I have no desire to speak with someone who has as their particular agenda to avoid good discussion, can't listen, and have a closed mind.

Have a great day.......

61 posted on 08/01/2013 11:25:37 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: D-fendr
I think this undermines your position on the other points.

Not really. Protestants just don't understand their history and catechisms but it's all based on scripture. So it's an educational process to understand the scriptures. That is why there are a wide variety of Bible studies.

Catholics have little to base their belief on except what church elders have decided to tell people what they should believe. The ironic part is that Catholic who understand they are to take their beliefs from what the Church tells them are the ones who attend.

I never thought about it in this context, but in a way their robots, robbed of their wills. I'll have to use that in my next predestination argument. ;O)

62 posted on 08/01/2013 5:56:17 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Not really.

Yes really. There's a whole lot of difference in what different folks get from the same scripture. Sola scriptura depends on whose interpretation.

63 posted on 08/01/2013 9:53:08 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HarleyD

That, I should add, seems to be the real purpose of catechisms and confessions: this is *our* interpretation (or Luthers or Zwingli’s or Calvin’s or..).


64 posted on 08/01/2013 9:54:05 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

If you are so down upon the scriptures and peoples interpretation, then how can you support external writings that were never accepted by the early church as “inspired”. Writings that introduces new thoughts and ideas to the Church. Forget the Sola Scriptura nonsense that goes on here. What exactly is your interpretation of what inspired writings mean?


65 posted on 08/02/2013 5:28:58 PM PDT by HarleyD
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Scripture is what the Church says it is. Scripture means what the Church says it means. Holy Scripture is a work product of the Church. If it meant something different then it would not be in the canon or in the Church teaching.

This is why Christ didn’t write a book. He established His Church, the pillar and foundation of all truth, guided by the Holy Spirit. That we may be One. That there be one Lord, one faith, one baptism - one holy, apostolic and catholic church.

Sola scriptura is neither scriptural nor practical - it doesn’t work, as protestants have shown again and again. Perhaps that is one reason Christ didn’t use it.


66 posted on 08/02/2013 11:59:37 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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