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To: presently no screen name
"It's no biggie, but expected considering 'the churched' today - weak with no power as they don't 'feel the need' to be edified."

Again, the experience junkies at work. Power? Try the power of the precious blood of the Lamb provided by God, Jesus the Messiah, who rescues broken sinners from themselves...that is power, my FRiend. And, it is all the power I will ever need. Keep your butterflies in the stomach, the ethereal floating of the heart, the "slain in the Spirit", the "feeling the presence of the Lord." It is all in your flesh.

And with respect to every believer being baptized into the Holy Spirit, you wrote...

"You believe that? It's must be your tradition speaking."

Tradition? Well, from the letter you use often, I Cor., comes this passage..."For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all MADE to drink of one Spirit." Tradition? Well, if you consider the words of Paul my tradition, I will gladly wear that.

The Charismatic/Pentecostal movement however...

53 posted on 07/24/2013 2:04:36 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
all MADE to drink of one Spirit.

Some reject it as they don't feel the need for it.

You brought up tradition when I posted Scripture. So I'll mark your post as hypocritical.

And ANYONE who says that Paul was exaggerating when speaking about tongues of angels - clearly shows they have no knowledge of Scripture despite it being posted and do not WANT the knowledge. I could post Scripture about those who deny the power - power that PAUL had and overflowed in it. But to know-it-alls, they can stay weak and impressed with themselves.

54 posted on 07/24/2013 2:29:01 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dutchboy88; presently no screen name
Power? This is what we are strengthened with power to do....

Ephesians 3:14-19 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

Nothing about the kind of power the charismatic movement goes after.

Tongues are a sign for unbelievers, not believers. They are for the edification of the body, as are all the gifts, not the individual.

Funny how I don't hear about people chasing after the gifts listed in Romans 12, prophecy, teaching, exhortation, service, leading, mercy, etc....

No, everyone is chasing after what Paul considers the least of the gifts. And for what?

55 posted on 07/24/2013 2:35:53 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Dutchboy88
Power? Try the power of the precious blood of the Lamb provided by God, Jesus the Messiah, who rescues broken sinners from themselves...that is power, my FRiend. And, it is all the power I will ever need.

Really? Seems like you are preparing to become someone's Savior. You don't have that power - It's HIS POWER for our benefit.

The HOLY SPIRIT is The POWER and used for the PURPOSE OF HIS WILL ALONE!

Only born again believers who receive it have the same POWER within that raised Jesus from the dead.

"You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9

FRiend, I highlighted it 'just for you' because of the benefit of the doubt, you may be teachable.

59 posted on 07/24/2013 6:26:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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