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To: The_Reader_David

Oops, one of the references should be to Col 1:16, not 1 Cor 1:15. Typo.


116 posted on 07/22/2013 12:13:12 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You're reading into the passages from John and Colossians the Church's understanding that was based on 2nd Maccabees. It is the only place the Scriptures speak of God creating out of nothing. The words in John and Colossians translated as "made" or "created" were not technical words indicating creation ex nihilo, but simply words meaning "made" (or perhaps "brought to pass") and "built", respectively. Nothing in the protestant canon, read "literally" as so many protestants want to read the Scriptures distinguishes between creation ex nihilo and creation as forming pre-existing amorphous material (as in the creation stories of numerous pagan traditions).

You rightly believe in creation ex nihilo, but it is a doctrine you impose on your short canon of Scripture, rather than derive from it, while for all Christian traditions that existed before the 16th century, it is a Biblical doctrine, precisely because we all (Orthodox, Latin, monophysite and Nestorian alike) have 2nd Maccabees in our canon.

117 posted on 07/22/2013 9:31:40 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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