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To: xzins

No. We are in complete disagreement. The cowardice of the ordained ministry in their attitude toward the Bishop and his DS’s is notorious. The Council of Bishops runs roughshod over local Conferences with one or two minor exceptions where a uniquely Biblical bishop is in conflict with the Council. The Council is not merely a coffee klatch. No bishop would agree with that assessment. I agree it takes a slave mentality to accede to autocratic power. Such, however, is the case.


46 posted on 07/20/2013 8:16:00 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell; xzins

“I believe that Scripture is against him in that the remnant was within the Church and not outside it.” — John Stott, responding to Martin Lloyd-Jones’ call for evangelicals to leave the Church of England

John Stott sums up the position of those of us who are evangelical and orthodox within the United Methodist Church pretty well.


48 posted on 07/20/2013 11:00:29 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: Louis Foxwell

Your use of the words “cowardice” and “slave mentality” both suggest that the bishop’s power is what I say, and that those who bow and scrape to them in hopes of assignment to a larger church with larger salary, actually constitute their real power. Again, though, that is intra-conference and not inter-conference.

Therefore, their power is WITHIN their own conferences.

As I’ve stated, they have no power to change the law of the denomination. That is set only by the every 4 year general conference.

In political terms we are looking at a confederacy and not at a federal system.


52 posted on 07/21/2013 3:10:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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