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To: Iscool
Jesus is quoted directly in the Gospels.

Does that constitute a significant distinction to you?

1,499 posted on 07/21/2013 4:36:09 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Iscool
Jesus is quoted directly in the Gospels. Does that constitute a significant distinction to you?

And?

OK, let me see if I have this right.

Catholics believe that Jesus is God. Right?

Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit is God. Right?

Then what makes the words of Jesus more significant than the words of the Holy Spirit?

God is God, is He not? Would God the Holy Spirit contradict anything said by God the Son? Is the Holy Spirit less important than the Son?

Luke 4:1-2 And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the wilderness 2 for forty days, being tempted by the devil.

Luke 4:14-15 14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.

Jesus - full of the Holy Spirit. Went about teaching.

Whose words was He speaking?

1,508 posted on 07/21/2013 5:24:55 AM PDT by metmom (rFor freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Jesus is quoted directly in the Gospels.

Does that constitute a significant distinction to you?

As far as importance and authority, no...

In the Gospels Jesus showed up to teach his chosen, the Jews, about him...Jesus taught about his coming Kingdom of Heaven, His earthly rule as the King...

God's chosen rejected Jesus as a whole...Jesus then turned to Paul...Jesus spent about 3 years with Paul teaching Paul about the Kingdom of God and how that Kingdom would be offered to the Gentiles...Jesus revealed to Paul the doctrine of grace thru faith without works...Jesus revealed to Paul how he wanted his church set up...Jesus revealed to Paul the resurrection of the saints...

Without Paul's teaching that Jesus revealed to him about the church, there wouldn't be much of a legitimate church today...Only so called churches similar to the Catholic church who pretty much twist, pervert and ignore what Jesus had Paul teach us...

All of scripture is equally important...It is all the counsel of God...

1,510 posted on 07/21/2013 6:01:07 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Iscool; metmom
Jesus is quoted directly in the Gospels. Does that constitute a significant distinction to you?

You mean being quoted directly means that these all His words in the gospels are exactly verbatim? And that these words are not thru the same Spirit who provides other quotes attributed to the Lord Jesus elsewhere? And that the latter, and all words by other persons (such as provide explanation of the gospels) are a lesser authority, so that laity may read these in Mass, unlike the gospels?

And does establishing writings as being Scripture require a magisterium with assured infallibility, and submission to it?

1,523 posted on 07/21/2013 6:54:56 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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