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I did not write Gen 16:3 all i did was to copy the very words.

I understand...Let's compare Gen. 16:3 to Gen. 30:4,9:

3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.

Sarai did this. Abram didn't initiate it; nor did God.

Now Genesis 30:

4 So she [Rachel] gave him her servant Bilhah as a wife...9 When Leah saw that she had stopped having children, she took her servant Zilpah and gave her to Jacob as a wife.

So, in Gen. 30, Rachel did the same thing; so did Leah. Jacob didn't initiate it; nor did God.

These were women making decisions based upon...
(a) In Sarai's case, distrust of God [she thought this would be the ONLY way God could fulfill His promise of numerous descendents...given Sarai's age]
(b) In Rachel's case, same motivation:
3 Then she said, “Here is Bilhah, my servant. Sleep with her so that she can bear children for me and I too can build a family through her.” [Gen. 30:3]
(c) In Leah's case, kinda the same thing...she had "stopped having children" -- so to counter this new barrenness -- and, being in direct competition with the Rachel-Bilhad side -- she copied Rachel's action...

This was all hardly divinely initiated, divinely sanctioned...

LOTS of Scripture describes men and women's sins...doesn't mean the Bible sanctions that activity...just describes it...sometimes even matter-of-factly.

84 posted on 07/13/2013 5:49:04 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

LOTS of Scripture describes men and women’s sins...doesn’t mean the Bible sanctions that activity...just describes it...sometimes even matter-of-factly.


Yes, i understand that also, but there is no commandment in the ten commandments that forbid it.

There is no direct commandment not to have more than one wife.

We can do a lot of assuming but you do not send some one to prison or to their death on assumptions, or at least we are not supposed to.

I honestly do not know, but i am not going to Judge a man for having more than one wife until i see the commandment that forbids it.

God is going to do the judging so i sure do not want to get judged for judging some one else more than what God would.

I was advised to join the Mormon church many years ago i refused, not because of polygamy but because of the tithing, i believe that a Christian Church collecting tithes is stealing.

I believe the 8th commandment plainly says thou shalt not steal.

If Jesus or even the Levites had of turned over the collection of tithes to the Christians then they would not be stealing, but again no scripture.


89 posted on 07/13/2013 8:07:01 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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