To: Gamecock
Total depravity of man and predestination posits that all men are evil and God chose the elect and the reprobates before the earth was created i.e. who is going to heaven and who is going to hell before He created the earth. If you follow the logic Calvinists believe Good happens to Good people i.e. the elect and bad happens to bad people i.e. the reprobates. So if you ever wonder why some quote unquote Conservatives don't want to address structural problems - they don't have to worry about them - because God has already decided - the reprobates (they can be recognized by the fact that they have nothing or little) are going to hell anyways - why worry about them here on earth.
To: BellaBlackLab; rusty schucklefurd; P-Marlowe; xzins; Gamecock; Springfield Reformer; Diamond; ...
14 posted on 7/4/2013 10:03:26 AM by BellaBlackLab: “If you follow the logic Calvinists believe Good happens to Good people i.e. the elect and bad happens to bad people i.e. the reprobates.” This is factually false.
Calvinists believe good happens to bad people and that there is no such thing as “good people.” All of us deserve eternal damnation and none of us deserve anything good. Election, according to Reformed doctrine, is not based on any foreknowledge by God of good deeds by the elect or any goodness whatsoever in them, but merely good done by God to undeserving sinners who have earned hellfire but get grace instead.
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Calvinism, it is not too much to ask you to correctly represent what Calvinism teaches. I will provide confessional reference if needed. This isn't an area in dispute.
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