Likewise flawed is your claim that non-Nicene subscribers believe your second statement "Jesus is a creature (not consubstantial with the Father)".
Some do. Most, in my experience, do not.
Just another reason why we have hundreds of different Christian brands and why we will have to agree to disagree.
I'm far more concerned with the 90-95% of what we agree upon and would hope that we would have the common sense to work together to defeat the forces of Satan rather casting stones at each other over the 5 to 10%.
Naturally. I'm a little curious, though ... In your particular church, how would you and a hypothetical fellow member of that church who believes as I do resolve your hypothetcial dispute?
Likewise flawed is your claim that non-Nicene subscribers believe your second statement "Jesus is a creature (not consubstantial with the Father)".
Cool your jets, brother. I did not and do not make that claim.
"Jesus (is|is not) of the same divine substance as the Father" is the dispute addressed by the Council of Nicea. That's an historical fact. Also an historical fact is that the Council resolved the dispute in favor of the proposition: "Jesus is of the same divine substance as the Father".
Now, as to modern groups which don't like the Nicene Creed (or creeds in general), I have said nothing. I don't know how they resolve disputes, nor do I know how they codify their beliefs. That's their problem, not mine. If they wish to explain it, that's wonderful.
BTW, you really should visit Louisiana ... if for no other reason than to complete the map. Also the fresh Gulf shrimp are awesome.
“Just another reason why we have hundreds of different Christian brands and why we will have to agree to disagree.”
Denying the deity of Jesus Christ and of the Holy Spirit places you outside of Christianity. Therefore, not only can we not simply “agree to disagree” as if the issue is unimportant, we must condemn your theology as damnable and always fight it in whatever manifestation it appears.