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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“Really? According to the Gospel, God wants no one to perish and all to repent, and the Church of that Gospel was able to grow even under Nero’s persecution.”


You aren’t even debating with me. You’re debating someone else and are just quoting me, as if I said something about repentance or whatnot. I never denied any of these things, you just keep asserting them for who knows what reason.

“But the god you worship is unable to overcome Putin and build a church in Russia, and needs you to tell him/her who he/she’s capable of saving.”


Keep in mind you are agreeing with Kremlin Propagandists that Russia will be the center of world Christianity, even though, as the other poster pointed out, Orthodoxy in Russia is more of an attribute (as I have also noticed) than it is an actual faith, with many of the “faithful” unlikely to even believe that there is a God to begin with.

This has nothing to do with God not having power to save His own in Russia. We can say this of any country that doesn’t have some government sponsored religion making the claim. It just has everything to do with a false Nationalistic Gospel being promoted by Putin and the ROC.

So you can keep bothering me about how I’m against the working of God, or repentence, or whatnot, but it has nothing whatever to do with anything I have said. You’re just ranting with self-righteous fury over something I have never disputed.


85 posted on 07/03/2013 4:17:55 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You aren’t even debating with me. You’re debating someone else and are just quoting me, as if I said something about repentance or whatnot. I never denied any of these things, you just keep asserting them for who knows what reason.

Nice try. I have answered your points directly, as anyone who still cares to review this thread will see.

Keep in mind you are agreeing with Kremlin Propagandists that Russia will be the center of world Christianity

My original comment on this thread was in response to the Russians protecting their children from the homosexual agenda while the leader of the free world is forcing it on our children.

As for whether I'm agreeing with them about Russia becoming the center of Christianity, I never commented on that, and I won't say it can't happen.

even though, as the other poster pointed out, Orthodoxy in Russia is more of an attribute (as I have also noticed) than it is an actual faith, with many of the “faithful” unlikely to even believe that there is a God to begin with.

OK, let's go with your premise that many Russian Christians are acting out of tradition rather than faith. What about those who remained faithful even in the Soviet Union when it was illegal. Did they risk prison just over a tradition they didn't really believe in?

Again, the Church grew under the persecution of the Roman Empire. Why not Russia, China, or (hopefully) even a revival here?

86 posted on 07/03/2013 4:44:42 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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