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To: Kansas58
You do not know what you are talking about.

I know EXACTLY what I talk about. It's laid out in black and white by the Vatican.

Any idiot can write a book and call it 'Catholic' teaching. You have been led astray.

69 posted on 07/02/2013 11:21:58 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers
That book, “With Open Arms” is often distributed, in nearly all Catholic Diocese, in classes held for divorced Catholics. That book has a valid Imprimatur

What you have posted from various sources relates to OPINIONS and DISPLEEASURE from some Church officials concerning the matter of the “Internal Forum”.

The bottom line is that the Vatican, under direct authority of the Pope, has NEVER prohibited the use of the “Internal Forum” or the “Pastoral Solution” for divorced Catholics who wish to remarry in the Church. The Church has NEVER defrocked or disciplined any Priest for using the Confessional and the “Pastoral Solution”.

If a Priest feels that those divorced and remarried Catholics, that YOU disapprove of, disservice to receive Communion and be fully within the Church, IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

The conversations took place in a Confessional setting, after reflection and examination of conscience.

Yes, the Internal Forum is open for abuse.

I suggest you look at the Kennedy family, and other situations, if you wish to discuss the abuses of the “External Forum” or Formal Annulment.

Again, there is NO prohibition stated. You have an opinion and advice from Ratzinger. That is his opinion. Also, The Pope agreed that the Internal Forum solution should be discouraged.

However, neither Ratzinger or the Pope prohibited the Pastoral Solution or the Internal Forum.

You are a judgmental, “law and order”, “rules and regs” Catholic who would have fit in quite well with the Pharisees of Jesus’ day.

What do you suggest the divorced Catholic do, if faced with the issues of mental illness, drug and alcohol abuse, violent tendencies and other problems among the ex or other members of the family that might have to answer to the Tribunal? Are such Catholics to remain single for the rest of their lives?

70 posted on 07/03/2013 6:14:45 AM PDT by Kansas58
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