Jimmy Carter vs. Blessed Virgin Mary Regarding the Male Priest

Canterbury Tales ^ | June 24, 2013 | Taylor Marshall

[NYer]

President Carter seems very concerned about the Catholic doctrine of the male priesthood. Speaking at the Carter Center's "Mobilizing Faith for Women" the former President answered some questions about women and religion. Let's look at his words against the Catholic Church and then I'll provide three systematic responses:

"And I think the great religions have set the example for that, by ordaining, in effect, that women are not equal to men in the eyes of God. This has been done and still is done by the Catholic Church ever since the third century, when the Catholic Church ordained that a woman cannot be a priest for instance but a man can. A woman can be a nurse or a teacher but she can’t be a priest. This is wrong, I think. 

And again, President Carter says: "And then after about the third century when men took over control of the Catholic Church, then they began to ordain that women had to play an inferior position, not be a priest."

Now I can understand where President Carter is coming from. First, he and his wife are Baptists. As Baptists they do not believe in a sacerdotal doctrine of the priesthood. 

Unlike the Baptists, the Catholic Church believes that the priesthood is not merely a ministerial function or office. Rather, when a man is ordained a priest, he is configured to Christ in a special way. His soul changes. We call this the indelible seal or character of Holy Orders. This is why there have never been women priests in the Catholic Church - not in the third, second, or first century. Never.

1. Jimmy Carter, Let's Take a Look at the Mystery of the Transubstantiation

Not only does the priest's soul undergo a metaphysical change, but the priest loans his own body and voice to Christ when he recites in the Holy Mass "This is my body." This act transubstantiates bread into the true Body of Christ.

Let's pause here. This is my body. Human bodies come in two versions: male and female. God designed it this way. Both sexes image God because, as the Church teaches, both sexes are ensouled and rational. See Genesis for details.

However, when the priest says, "This is my body," he is acting in persona Christi (in the person of Christ). Now then Christ is male. He was circumcised. The body that He offered on the cross was male. For this reason, only men can be priests because the Catholic Church mystically identifies the male Body of Christ with each and every male priest. The sacramental signification requires a man to stand in for the God-Man Jesus Christ at the altar.

2. Jimmy Carter and Clericalism

Secondly, President Carter unknowingly slips into clericalism. Clericalism is the insidious belief that clergy are de facto holier and more important than everyone else. As a Baptist, he likely sees his pastor as a CEO and/or a gifted public speaker. These functions parallel those of secular companies. Hence, to exclude women is, in his mind, sexist.

But the Catholic Church does not see priests as CEOs or primarily as preachers/teachers. Rather, priests are chiefly "fathers." Their relationship to other people is not transactional, it's paternal. Only a dad can be a dad. Again, it's a male thing. The Aramaic word for "father" is Abba meaning "giver of love."

3. Jimmy Carter, please meet the Blessed Virgin Mary

Here's the third and final thought:

I'd like to point out that the Catholic Church explicitly teaches that the greatest human person ever created is the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Mary is not only a woman, she is the Woman. The Catholic Church also teaches that she is higher than all Catholic priests, even higher than the twelve apostles. In fact, she is higher than every single angel. 

The priesthood, even the papacy, is not the highest "job" in the Catholic Church. In fact, the Catholic Church features many beautiful female saints in the canon of the Mass. I would even argue that the Catholic Church celebrates femininity more than any other religion and certainly more than any other Christian denomination. 

At the end of the day, the Catholic Church teaches that it is holiness and intimacy with Christ that is most important, not being a priest. As a former Episcopal priest, I could go on to be a married Catholic priest. But I chose not to do so. Why? Because I realized that my personal "yes" to God is enough. Nothing more is needed of me. 

I love priests. I kiss the hand of every priest I meet. I truly love priests because without them there is no Holy Eucharist and no supernatural life in the world. However, as my former spiritual director Father Ron Gillis (who died just last week) taught me, "At the front of most Catholic churches are not side altars dedicated to Peter and Paul, but to Joseph and Mary - a reminder that the priesthood supports the Church and not the other way around." 

That's a beautiful and simple lesson for all of us.

May Father Ron Gillis rest in peace. It's too bad that he could not have shared that insight with President Jimmy Carter.

Fr Ron Gillis, rest in peace. Please say a Hail Mary for the repose of his soul.

[NYer]

For the benefit of non-catholic visitors who have a problem with the catholic use of the word "Father" to address a priest:

Catholics know that as members of a parish, they have been committed to a priest’s spiritual care, thus they have great filial affection for priests and call them "father." Priests, in turn, follow the apostles’ biblical example by referring to members of their flock as "my son" or "my child" (cf. Gal. 4:19; 1 Tim. 1:18; 2 Tim. 2:1; Philem. 10; 1 Pet. 5:13; 1 John 2:1; 3 John 4).

All of these passages were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and they express the infallibly recorded truth that Christ’s ministers do have a role as spiritual fathers. Jesus is not against acknowledging that. It is he who gave these men their role as spiritual fathers, and it is his Holy Spirit who recorded this role for us in the pages of Scripture. To acknowledge spiritual fatherhood is to acknowledge the truth, and no amount of anti-Catholic grumbling will change that fact.

Call No Man "Father"?

[nickcarraway]

Carter was president. Why didn’t he crack down on such an evil cult when he had the chance?

[nickcarraway]

Carter was president. Why didn’t he crack down on such an evil cult when he had the chance?

[Mastador1]

Well the answer is simple, stay the F*C* out out other peoples religion if you don’t like it. Isn’t that SUPPOSED to be one of the founding principles of our country, freedom of religion? Why , oh why, couldn’t the Founding Fathers have put a Freedom From Clymers clause in the Constitution! It would have saved us from people like Carter, Gore, Pelosi, Reid and so many,many others!

[informavoracious]

And the Catholics make women enter through separate doors and worship separately from the men. And if a Catholic woman is raped, she is stoned for adultery. And little Catholic girls undergo FGM at puberty. And Catholic girls get acid thrown in their faces for spurning Catholic boys. Right.

MYOB Jimmy.

[Vaquero]

Sez in peanuts biography that james earl carter be a baptist.

So yimmy. Deal with your own faith And let the RCs deal with theirs

[JCBreckenridge]

Do the Baptists even want him?

[ArrogantBustard]

Which Baptists. Back about year 2000, Jimmuh told the Southern Baptist Convention to FOAD, and joined up with a liberal Baptist group.

He was particularly incensed over the SBC's refusal to ordain women, and it's insistence that homosexual behaviour is unacceptable.

La plus ca change ...

[workerbee]

I can’t wait not to watch this dork’s funeral.

[CdMGuy]

The second worst President of the United States, the self-proclaimed Southern Baptist, the known anti-Semite and anti-Catholic now has the audacity to tell the Catholic Church that the Church should allow the ordination of women. Next, he will be telling Jews to move their Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

[JCBreckenridge]

Ahh, I thought so. So he’s kind sorta ‘Baptist lite’.

He should stop sullying their good name. I hear the episcopalians are hiring. He could be bishop Jimmuh.

[JCBreckenridge]

What about Friday! I’m sure he has plenty to say. ;)

[Resolute Conservative]

See #9 he is not a Southern Baptist anymore because we, as our Catholic Brothers/Sister, do not ordain women.

[fwdude]

I'd like to point out that the Catholic Church explicitly teaches that the greatest human person ever created is the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Uh, the Scriptures beg to differ. It was the Prophet John.

[Campion]

Read carefully. It says that no greater *man* was born of woman than John. The BVM is not a man.

[fwdude]

It says that no greater *man* was born of woman than John. The BVM is not a man.

She's not a "god" either.

Seriously, "man" is used in the generic sense for all of humankind in the verse about John being the greatest. Just as the Lord said, "no man can come to the Father except by me" didn't exclude women.

[NYer]

La plus ca change ...

???

Did you intend to write: Plus ca change, plus c'est la mem chose?

[Sergio]

Thank you for the informative post.

[ansel12]

the self-proclaimed Southern Baptist

He renounced the Southern Baptist denomination and left it.

""In October 2000, Carter again made headlines with his widely-publicized decision to leave the Southern Baptist Convention. Carter sent out over 75,000 letters to Southern Baptist churches nationwide explaining his decision.""

In April 2006, Carter, former-President Bill Clinton and Mercer University President Bill Underwood formed the New Baptist Covenant.