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To: BlueDragon; Mrs. Don-o; A.A. Cunningham; Alex Murphy; humblegunner
Since the Santa Fe area, as is NM generally, quite likely to be more Hispanic in it's Catholic population than nationwide U.S. on average, the numbers would then tilt even further towards probability of 'complainers' voting Democrat. Reliable enough data exists indicating that not only Hispanics in general are more likely to vote Democrat, but just about as likely to do so even if they self-identify as Catholic (thus highly probable to be protective of Guadalupe imagery). Add in those who though not "Catholic" per se, but have pro-Mexican, pro- unbridled immigration from Mexico sympathies too (the Guadalupe image symbolizing much Mehico) that would press possibility that complainers likely voted for Soetero and other 'Rat Party candidates even further, dragging into the mix some of white "liberals" who have infested Sante Fe for years now.

Since the greater part of the above be true, or at least close in the neighborhood of objective truth; it is unreasonable to take ZC's statement primarily any way other than (ZC can correct me if I'm wrong) his statement was intended to refer to persons in the Santa Fe area whom took offense; rendering the asking him or any other to "name" those persons, be itself unreasonable.

Thanks for the support, BlueDragon. That is exactly what I meant, and the whole "name one" bit was ridiculous and had nothing to do with anything.

103 posted on 06/26/2013 8:49:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Glad to help. We don't have to agree on everything for some things to be obvious enough. Your small comment was one of those...but given the atmosphere I can see how a person could have made other assumption concerning it.

As for my long note touching upon other ideas...one thing led to another...with various element of idea long on on my mind ---still stuck and difficult to fully explain.

There is still a fairly strong strain of "social justice" like thinking in the RCC? It seems more powerful outside of it...but then I can only peek over the walls so to speak.

Once immigrants do arrive in the U.S., pretty much every and all churches do find themselves compelled to accommodate them. What other choice is there? I point towards this to make it clear I'm not blaming any Christian organization for assisting immigrants. It can be a part of practicing the Gospel.

Yet still, I do like it better when churches remain aloof from the 'political' as much as possible, leaving the sky-pilots more minded towards heavenly things.

The ReConquista elements I included in further discussion are just a samll part of the somewhat fractured (as to various competing groupings) hard militant edge to the La Raza types who's Latino Supremacist attitudes are in some ways buttressed by the Virgin of Guadalupe imagery. That may be an unintended side-effect of the image, but it IS there...

I do expect to catch some grief for much else which I wrote, but would hope the bulk of it be taken in context with all the rest, instead of some defense of "image" or RCC be kneejerk response (which may begin at seeing my name--or my "style", with more than few here knowing full well who it is at first glance). It's like many see who it is...and either skip over it, or inspect for some flaw or crack to go jam crow bars into, so the greater sense of exposures not to their liking can be ignored or denied. It should be plain enough by now I don't intimidate into silence very easy. That's another 'trick' with a certain cadre around here. But they call me a bully. bwahahaaha.

Going to the dot.org of National Council of La Raza what's the first thing I see but Michelle Obama smiling from their pages. There IS connection between these groups. It IS ideological, with them sharing "liberation theology" among other things...like not caring about the foundational documents and laws of this nation, it's history and heritage, what made it great despite some serious flaws, and how that heritage must be both understood and continued, or this nation will become no longer fit to live in.

Both camps, the Chicago machine politics (with strong doses of socialism if not outright communism thrown in, along with a side of black liberation theology) and the racist La Raza types, are using one another for each to further their own goals.The Latino vote follows the La Raza vote even if they don't fully adopt La Raza attitudes.

I'd bet the Obama Admin has ways of funneling money to them. Our money. Tax dollars from everyone (not just Democrats) but showered on Democrat Party vote-getters.

104 posted on 06/26/2013 10:17:39 PM PDT by BlueDragon (politics and religion --- not to be discussed in 'polite' company???)
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