Not going to debate it here, but I’ve studied this at length, absorbing differing scenarios offered by folks more expert than I - and just saying that there are very compelling cases being made by brilliant people for scenarios other than what you are describing - and yet - a case can be made for that too.
I have heard literally 100 different views on this by very serious people that have studied in great detail and came to different conclusions. I agree, no point in debating it here.