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1 posted on 06/20/2013 2:39:32 PM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2013 2:39:49 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Hmm. Is he going to argue that there’s a chance that Osama bin Laden ended up anywhere else?


4 posted on 06/20/2013 2:41:43 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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America's leading enemy doesn't want to go to hell - too lazy - he expects to bring hell right here to our country.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 2:57:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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The Vatican has enemies? That’s different.


8 posted on 06/20/2013 3:18:10 PM PDT by kempster
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Hate is someone letting their dog shit in your driveway and then pushing your nose in it. You HATE them for it!

The same applies for someone who takes your freedoms and lifetime savings along with making you live in the Bizzarro world of illegal aliens, criminals, queers and child molesters and others who have become a protected species in the name of Political Correctness.

Yes.............hate is real and wishing damnation on those who have done you wrong is appropriate.

What a fool!


11 posted on 06/20/2013 3:22:33 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Here is my interpretation of this sermon:

Perhaps this is part of his message:
Subtle undertones about different cultures around the world where the people profess to be “Catholic” or “Christian” yet they maintain pagan rituals that may include “cursing” others. (Cursing can mean wishing physical harm or eternal damnation.)

Remember the Pope’s background and his upbringing and how this may have shaped his worldview beyond the walls of the Vatican.


12 posted on 06/20/2013 3:22:59 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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He is 100% correct. From now on, I’ll wish them to go to Detroit, or maybe New Jersey.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 3:41:29 PM PDT by TexasPaul (TexasPaul)
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I’m sure that for most people it is wrong to think your enemies are going to hell. However, it is a certain that MY enemies are, in fact, Hell bound. That is just the way it is.


19 posted on 06/20/2013 4:44:05 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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...because he is a father to all.”

Er... our Lord didn't see it that way. We all start out as children of the devil. As our Lord reminds us, our will is against God's will. Some of us are adopted into our Father's family as He gives us the desire to follow His will.

There are the righteous and the unrighteous. The only thing that separates us is which way our wills our bent. But that makes a difference as to who our father actually is.

21 posted on 06/20/2013 4:56:35 PM PDT by HarleyD
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It’s not that we “think” anyone is going to Hell. It’s very clear in the Bible that the unsaved will go to Hell.

I’m recalling a conversation I had last week with my R.C. friend. As a Baptist, I believe that the Bible is the Final Authority. She told me the Catholics don’t believe that. They think there’s a lot of good stuff in the Bible, but the final authority is what their human leaders pass on to them.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 5:16:48 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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What the Pope means is two ways, which is mean what you pray/say in the Lord’s prayer and pray for the conversion of your enemies.


32 posted on 06/21/2013 3:25:09 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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“You cannot pray with enemies in your heart,” he said June 20. “With (both) brothers and enemies in your heart, you cannot pray.”

“They must go to hell, right? I will have nothing to do with them!” the Bishop of Rome said sarcastically.

The Pope told how Jesus noted, “if we do not forgive others, neither will the Father forgive us our sins.”

“It’s so hard to forgive others, it is really difficult because we always have that regret inside,” he said.

“We think ‘you did this to me, you wait … I’ll repay him the favor.'”

nobody trusts me
they blame me for the fires in town
they say that hell is where i'm bound
and pray that God will speed me

-- from the song "Hard Luck Bad News"
on the Solid Rock release Something New Under The Son
lyrics by Larry Norman


35 posted on 06/21/2013 5:37:28 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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