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To: editor-surveyor
Shem Tov’s translation of Matthew is from the 14th, cen. and was likely from the Greek. That's why I said you should crack the history books.

According to Daniel Wallace some 43% of all NT verses are found in Greek mss from the first and second centuries.

The translation of Shem Tov is not an “original writing” as no autograph mss are known to exist.

“The best evidence is the mistranslated Hebrew coloquialisms, and puns found in the Greek text, for those of you that have not the spirit”.

And what might those be? Not all, just give us a few since you say that's “The best evidence....”

65 posted on 07/03/2013 8:54:29 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change; editor-surveyor; dr.proctor
“The best evidence is the mistranslated Hebrew coloquialisms, and puns found in the Greek text, for those of you that have not the spirit”.

Well.....I'm certainly no expert in this area....but what about these statements?

Origen (Eusebius, H.E. 6.25.4)

"As having learnt by tradition concerning the four Gospels, which alone are unquestionable in the Assembly of God under heaven, that first was written according to Matthew, who was once a tax collector but afterwards an apostle of Jesus Christ, who published it for those who from Judaism came to believe, composed as it was in the Hebrew language."

Eusebius, (H.E. 3.24.6)

Matthew had first preached to Hebrews, and when he was on the point of going to others he transmitted in writing in his native language the Gospel according to himself, and thus supplied by writing the lack of his own presence to those from whom he was sent."

Epiphanius (ca. 315-403)

Bishop of Salamis, refers to a gospel used by the Ebionites (Panarion 30. 13.1-30.22.4). He says it is Matthew, called "According to the Hebrews" by them, but says it is corrupt and mutilated. He says Matthew issued his Gospel in Hebrew letters. He quotes from this Ebionite Gospel seven times. These quotations appear to come not from Matthew but from some harmonised account of the canonical Gospels.

Jerome

Also asserts that Matthew wrote in the Hebrew language (Epist. 20.5), and he refers to a Hebrew Matthew and a Gospel of the Hebrews-unclear if they are the same. He also quotes from the Gospel used by the Nazoreans and the Ebionites, which he says he has recently translated from Hebrew to Greek (in Matth. 12.13). We have quotations from such a source from Cyril of Jerusalem, Jerome, Origen, Didymus, Clement of Alexandria.

66 posted on 07/03/2013 9:08:47 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: count-your-change

Shem Tov was a copy of an older Hebrew MS.

That has been proven by Israel’s best Hebrew scholars.

Tell Yahova to check with Daniel Wallace?

Go for it!


70 posted on 07/04/2013 10:11:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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