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To: ansel12; Religion Moderator; narses

It seems to me that ansell12’s posts are somewhat off-topic and also biased.

Sure, you could say that the revolution in Mexico was “Catholics fighting Catholics,” but in fact it was basically Communist ex-Catholics fighting and murdering Priests and other Catholics.

It was much the same as the Civil War in Spain, which was also Communists murdering Priests and other Catholics. Franco was villanized by the leftist media, but he simply chose to fight against the Communist murderers; and he managed to keep Hitler from occupying Spain, which was about as much as he was able to do in the circumstances. He also provided refuge to quite a few Jews who managed to make it out of France into Spain, although the leftist Jews certainly don’t give him any credit for that.

I think narses sometimes gets carried away on these threads, but I don’t entirely blame him.

As for whether the U.S. should have intervened in the Mexican civil war, that’s a different question. Probably not. But Mexico wouldn’t be such a mess even now if not for the class warfare that has gone on down there. The best analysis of what’s wrong with Latin America that I know of is Joseph Conrad’s “Nostromo,” which describes the constant shift of dictators in Latin America from left to right, from Communism to crony capitalism. Not much the U.S. can do about it, although it might help if our Democrat politicians didn’t get so loving with their Communist dictators.


64 posted on 06/16/2013 7:15:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero; verga

Post 9 was in response to post 8 that describes situations or history in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Asia and Latin America, Mexico, Africa and the Middle East, China, North Korea, Vietnam, and Cambodia, that I disagreed with and that encompassed my father’s and mine, and my brother’s time in the military, and my nation’s engagement in combat in almost all those areas.

Responding to post 8 made sense, but I think it is right to point out that other posters got way off topic when they tried to get overly involved in Mexican history.

They even avoided the relevant question of which countries were supposed to send their Army’s to Mexico, and why, and if Mexico needed to be invaded, then perhaps the many Catholic nations south of it could have invaded, or perhaps the Catholic nations of Spain, or France could have gone to help.

America did it’s part by taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees from their Catholic nation of Mexico during that period.


68 posted on 06/16/2013 12:55:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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