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To: Safrguns

2 Thess. 2 does not say the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth, you are reading a pretrib rapture into the scripture.

If “apostasy” is supposed to mean a departure from earth (in a pretrib rapture), instead of a departure from the the faith, why is it nobody in church history interpreted the way you do until the rise of pretribulationism in the early 19th century?

None of the ECF (Early Church Fathers) understood “apostasy” to mean a pretrib rapture. And they knew Greek very well, I would dare say better than you.

Justin Martyr, for instance, said the antichrist would be “the man of apostasy.” The context supports Justin I would say.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 5:25:45 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

>>> If “apostasy” is supposed to mean a departure from earth (in a pretrib rapture), instead of a departure from the the faith, why is it nobody in church history interpreted the way you do until the rise of pretribulationism in the early 19th century?

Well... maybe because there weren’t many bibles around???
Check your history on that.

Pre-trib rapture is taught best I think through the tradition of Jewish courtship, engagement, and the marriage ceremony.

There are several scriptures which give evidence that when Jesus returns to earth for everyone to see, He does so with the saints. All born again Christians fall into that category.


18 posted on 06/14/2013 5:54:19 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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