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To: CatherineofAragon; Sherman Logan
Actually, Catherine, I disagree with your POV that independent scientific evidence doesn't matter in comparison with Biblical revelation.

Quite the contrary: actual scientific evidence (i.e. that which conforms to the actual physical reality of the natural world, when correctly interpreted) is just as authoritative as Scripture (the Biblical texts, correctly interpreted). This is because the Book of Nature and the Book of Scripture both have the same Author, God Himself, working through natural secondary causes; and God is reasonable and coherent, and tells a consistent, well-ordered testimony of Himself and His works.

This is the whole point of "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament proclaims His handiwork" and related verses. This is also the whole point of the Christian revelation which identified God with Logos --- the Reason behind every form of knowledge and wisdom.

9 posted on 06/06/2013 8:03:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (En arche en ho Logos kai ho Logos, en pros ton Theon kai Theos en ho Logos. John 1:1)
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To: don-o
Mine at #9.
10 posted on 06/06/2013 8:04:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (En arche en ho Logos kai ho Logos, en pros ton Theon kai Theos en ho Logos. John 1:1)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Quite the contrary: actual scientific evidence (i.e. that which conforms to the actual physical reality of the natural world, when correctly interpreted) is just as authoritative as Scripture (the Biblical texts, correctly interpreted). This is because the Book of Nature and the Book of Scripture both have the same Author, God Himself, working through natural secondary causes; and God is reasonable and coherent, and tells a consistent, well-ordered testimony of Himself and His works.

Let me guess: by "correctly interpreted" you mean the first eleven chapters of Genesis reduced to "didactic mythology" because they clash with "science," am I correct?

Why don't you allow "science" to sit in judgment on the virgin birth, the resurrection of J*sus, etc.? Why do you suddenly throw "science" away when it tells you such things could not have possibly happened? Why are only the first eleven chapters of Genesis thrown into the garbage can?

Talk about inconsistency in the use of "science" to overrule the Bible!

15 posted on 06/06/2013 8:46:21 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; CatherineofAragon
actual scientific evidence....is just as authoritative as Scripture

God's Word always was.... evidence changes and/or added - so to say it is 'just as authoritative as Scripture' shows one doesn't KNOW His inspired Word.

There is no Book of Nature. Through nature one can study the universe and name every star but that shows ALL He created and how Mighty He is - but it doesn't get one to KNOW Him, personally, and that is done through His Word ONLY. Many know 'of' Him but not HIM, personally. That is done by The Spirit. One must know God by The Spirit and worship Him in The Spirit.

God is SPIRIT and not nature. Let all the 'mother earth' and tree huggers weep as they worship His creation and NOT HIM!

"God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in Truth." John 4:24

And God's Holy Spirit inspired Word is the only TRUTH there is and that makes it The FINAL Authority!

And no one can get to The Father BUT through His Son, JESUS!!

"Jesus saith unto him, I am The Way, The Truth, and The LIFE: no man cometh unto The Father, but by Me." John 14:6

19 posted on 06/06/2013 9:07:47 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m afraid I’m unfamiliar with the “Book of Nature”, Mrs. Don-o. But, aside from that, I stand by my assertion. Science is nothing but the branch of discovery by which we. as Christians, attempt to discover and use the principles of the universe created by the Lord. It is limited by our fallible human natures and in no way can be given equal footing with Scripture.

We have to remember that not all of what is known as “science” agrees with the Bible....notably the theory of evolution. I don’t know if this is what you mean when you mention secondary causes, or reason and coherence. When science contradicts Scripture, and evolution does, we have to make a choice what we will believe.

God IS a God of reason and coherence, because He is Truth. But He is also a God of unknowable mysteries and astonishing miracles.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 9:36:55 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Evolution is simply an often repeated fraud. It cannot stand close examination. The first 3 chapters of Genesis is most certainly true, as is the whole of the Bible.


35 posted on 06/06/2013 1:44:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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