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To: NYer

I see, so if you use the word “correctly” in your explanation then it must make it so. Any objective person would clearly and correctly have interpreted Christ as using symbolism, no matter how many times he said it.

Furthermore, even if that was Christ’s intent at that time, which obviously it was not, that hardly means that we mere mortals using communion “host” made in a bakery and not dropped from heaven couldn’t carry out a symbolic act without it being an act of idol worship.

On essence, you’re saying that 75 percent of Christians in this country are worshipping an idol every time they take communion. Sorry if that makes us Takfir in your eyes.


52 posted on 06/02/2013 4:58:40 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet
Any objective person would clearly and correctly have interpreted Christ as using symbolism, no matter how many times he said it.

Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?" (1 Cor. 10:16). So when we receive Communion, we actually participate in the body and blood of Christ, not just eat symbols of them. Paul also said, "Therefore whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. . . . For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself" (1 Cor. 11:27, 29). "To answer for the body and blood" of someone meant to be guilty of a crime as serious as homicide. How could eating mere bread and wine "unworthily" be so serious? Paul’s comment makes sense only if the bread and wine became the real body and blood of Christ.


62 posted on 06/02/2013 1:50:59 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NavVet
Any objective person would clearly and correctly have interpreted Christ as using symbolism, no matter how many times he said it.

John Chapter 6: 52 - 59

52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; 54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.” 59 This he said in the synagogue, as he taught at Caper′na-um.

66 After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him. 67 Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also wish to go away?”

Jesus did not say ... Wait, don't leave! I was only speaking symbolically!

79 posted on 06/03/2013 8:48:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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