Posted on 05/31/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by NYer
>> “The early church.” <<
>> “Which was Catholic.” <<
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For the first two centuries, no measurable number of Yeshua’s followers observed any of the practices of what you call “catholic.”
Certainly Jesus created the Catholic (universal) Church, I just don’t see the Roman church asserting itself until 500 years after the resurrection.
Nonsense. Were it not for Rome the world wouldn't have the Gospels.
Christians are free from the law.
Not from God's law they aren't.
"Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:17-18
You have to walk the walk not just talk the talk.
"Not every one that saith to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of My Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 7:21
"But according to thy hardness and impenitent heart, thou treasurest up to thyself wrath, against the day of wrath, and revelation of the just judgment of God. Who will render to every man according to his works. To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation." Romans 2:5-8
"For we must all be manifested before the judgement seat of Christ, that every one may receive the proper things of the body, according as he hath done, whether it be good or evil." 2 Corinthians 5:10
"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of justice, whose end shall be according to their works." 2 Corinthians 11:15
"You are made void of Christ, you who are justified in the law: you are fallen from grace. For we in spirit, by faith, wait for the hope of justice. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity." Galatians 5:4-6
"For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God; Not of works, that no man may glory. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:8-10
"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation. For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to His good will." Philippians 2:12-13
"Knowing that you shall receive of the Lord the reward of inheritance. Serve ye the Lord Christ. For he that doth wrong, shall receive for that which he hath done wrongfully: and there is no respect of persons with God." Colossians 3:24-25
"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?" James 2:14
"So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself." James 2:17
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" James 2:20
"Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" James 2:24
"For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:26
"And if you invoke as Father Him who, without respect of persons, judgeth according to every one's work: converse in fear during the time of your sojourning here." 1 Peter 1:17
"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works." Apocalypse 20:12-13
The pagan emperor Constantine founsded the “catholic” church.
You may have listgend, but I am certain you didn't understand, or else you would still be Catholic.
Are you Catholic?
Oh, nonsense. The Didache is one example that alone proves how wrong you are.
Peace be with you
So they should have checked with you for your superior, authoritative, infallible interpretation of what all the various biblical texts really mean before they discussed them?
*I*?
Who are you?
Why should your opinion matter?
Someone taught you this. I’m curious as to who.
Again you are confusing what you think is the teaching of the Church with the actual teaching of the Church. That's akin to thinking Barry Soetoro is an authority on the Bill of Rights.
Although you won't do it, you'd be well served to obtain and read the following for starters:
Are you denying that Christ founded the Catholic Church?
This is a lie that has been perpetuated through the ages.
Constantine became a friend of the Catholic Church, but he did not found it. Christ did.
No he issued the "Edict of Toleration" that made it legal to practice the faith openly.
Nice try though. Listen if you like just forward your posts to me and I will correct your errors and you won't look foolish.
I would have to agree that the Roman Church was GREATLY affected by Constantine.
Sorry you didn't learn this is Catholic School.
Only in the Universal sense.
Really? Wow! How did all of the credible historians in the world miss this?
Why, because you say so??? The bible also tells us Jesus never succumbed to sin...So we know 'all' means all except God manifest in the flesh...
The true church has never prayed to the dead, worshipped Mary, believed the fiction of “transsubstantiation,” called believers “Father,” or “priests,” or prayed to idols or icons, or collected relects of the dead.
move to Indiana....the state will provide a voucher that can be used in a Catholic school!!!
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