Posted on 05/27/2013 7:43:17 AM PDT by DaveMSmith
The Vatican has just announced that, despite what Pope Francis said in his homily earlier this week, atheists are still going to hell.
What a relief. For a brief moment there it was possible to imagine a brave new world of compassion, generosity and acceptance, not qualities we have come to associate with the Holy See.
Said Pope Francis this week: 'The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!'
That seemed like a pretty clear admission that people of other faiths and none have intrinsic worth to God and will be saved alongside the faithful. But this turned out to be wishful thinking.
Although they are otherwise good, moral people they are still doomed to burn in a lake of fire for having the temerity to have been born outside of Catholicism or having chosen to remain so.
The Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, spelled it out for the world on Thursday. People who know about the Catholic church 'cannot be saved' if they 'refuse to enter her or remain in her,' he said.
So that's one tall order of eternal hellfire for the rest of us, then.
It makes for an interesting spectacle to see the infallible pope being corrected by his handlers, doesn't it? For a moment it was possible to recall the welcoming and indulgent style of the short lived Pope John Paul I in the unexpectedly all-embracing words of Pope Francis. But you'll recall how quickly John Paul I was replaced by the much more doctrinaire John Paul II.
(Excerpt) Read more at irishcentral.com ...
It is exactly the teachings of Jesus that he teaches.
Jesus defines “believing” many times as DOING WHAT HE TEACHES not professing belief or making vain declarations or showy appearances in a church. In particular in Matthew 25:31-46 he speaks of separating all mankind into those who feed the hungry, clothe the poor, visit the prisoner (his sheep) ... and those who do not as “goats” who are rejected no matter how vehemently they claim to be righteous church goers.
You realize that there was no “infallible statement,” right?
But was it one of the “inerrant” ones? You tell us.
The report doesn’t claim to be a transcript. It is just a report on some of the things the Pope said at the private Mass. I don’t have any issue with the report and I have no reason to think it’s not accurate. Rather, you said you have a problem with what the Pope _didn’t_ say during the Mass. Since you weren’t there and you didn’t read the transcript, you have no way of knowing what the Pope didn’t say. You just thought it would be fun to make a snarky remark against the Pope, with no actual thought behind it, just as you seem to enjoy insulting comments about Muslims, without offering any actual arguments against Islam. In that sense you are like the little kid who steps into the circle at the end of a fight and gratuitously kicks the loser. Whether that kid deserved to lose or not is something beyond your intellectual capabilites to determine.
Seems to me your fight is with the Vatican...They are the one who put out the story from the Vatican radio station and quoted your pope...And maybe I am wrong about the muzlims...They are after all, closer to Catholics than Protestants are and they are, the religion of peace...
Learn to read, your comprehension stinks. I am addressing apostasy from Catholic teaching. If you were never a Catholic who was convinced that all of Catholic teaching was true then you can hardly be an apostate from the Church. Protestants are not apostate, since they can not be accused of once believing that the Church had the fullness of Truth. Nor would most converts come under that condemnation because for the most part they left because they could not reconcile the doubts they had with Church teaching. They did not “know” the Church had the fullness of Truth.
So again learn to read.
Fair enough. I can respect that statement as it is logical. If anyone knows that they are committing a great sin by embracing a faith that is condemned by God of course they risk damnation by their stubborn refusal to flee sin.
My reading comprehension is just fine.
This says that if you don't agree with the Catholic church, you are going to hell.
No it does not. It says if you knew the Catholic Church held the fullness of Truth and abandoned that Truth you would go to hell. The operative word being “knew”.
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