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To: Mrs. Don-o
"I will continue to worship the Lord Our God and to enjoy the Communion of Saints. I will pray that it dawns on you sometime what I'm talking about. And I'll remember you at Mass this morning."

Have you noticed that our Protestant antagonists want to keep the discussion and our attention on the hypothetical and away from the real, the physical and the actual? All one need to observe is which form of worship is efficacious. At one end of the spectrum are the many verified and verifiable miracles within Catholic worship and a contrasting paucity within Protestant worship. At the other end of the spectrum is the power of the Church to perform exorcisms and drive out demons where Protestantism takes a more tolerant and head in the sand approach.

I will not argue that God cannot be found in Protestantism or in the hearts of Protestants. Everything good is from God. But with all of that actual proof in contrast with the rhetorical claims of our antagonists I too will continue to worship the Lord Our God and to enjoy the Communion of Saints within the Church Jesus founded upon St. Peter.

Peace be to you.

166 posted on 05/28/2013 12:29:18 PM PDT by Natural Law (Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.)
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To: Natural Law
There's too many different kinds of Proterstants to make any kind of adequate generalization, plus you've got to bear in mind the FR self-selection factor. FR may have 10,000 Protestant members, but only the 0.1% are highly aroused by haunting Marian threads and accosting the Catholics over and over and over again with the SS/DD. So you've got a kind of pharmaceutical-grade super-distillate sample with a pH that would blister paint, that isn't fairly representative of Protestantism per se.

In fact I know scads of splendid Protestants from pro-life and home-schooling cooperation, and they give me an overall assurance of good sense, good will and good cheer. So the more excitable FReeps are, laud tibi Christe, atypical.

Having said that, yeah, I do notice their persistent unease with the whole idea of the Incarnation. They seems to have a decided preference for an invisible God with an invisible Church who saves my invisible soul to be kept incommunicado in invisible heaven forever.

Thin broth.

Needs meatballs.

168 posted on 05/28/2013 12:56:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (" If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: Natural Law

Good post.

I find those that you call “antagonists” frightening. Frightening like all fanatics of all creeds. Frightening in their certainty, which is, to me at least, based on ignorance passing as knowledge, which they base on interpreting obscure passages from the Bible, and frightening in their hostility, no different, I’m afraid, from the hostility of the Islamists, or Leftists. There is no qualitative difference between the fanatical Marxists I have known, and the fanatical antagonists of Catholicism on these pages, they each just use a different “Bible” to support their “unassailable” dogmas.

The problem with American Christianity is that any fool can and does pick up the Bible and declares himself a theologian, and since this is about their Dear Jesus, you are not allowed to question him. And the loudest ones, the Rev. Wrights, the Bakkers, the Crouches and Harold Campings, as well as the anti-Catholic posters here, do everything in their power to persuade us that they are indeed fools.


170 posted on 05/28/2013 2:17:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Natural Law; Mrs. Don-o
Have you noticed that our Protestant antagonists want to keep the discussion and our attention on the hypothetical and away from the real, the physical and the actual?

I find that to be quite the other way around.

All one need to observe is which form of worship is efficacious. At one end of the spectrum are the many verified and verifiable miracles within Catholic worship and a contrasting paucity within Protestant worship.

What paucity? Miracles abound... They are not weeping statues, apparitions in grilled cheese, and such silliness and magic - but I have seen healing... I have seen tongues, I have seen prophecy...

At the other end of the spectrum is the power of the Church to perform exorcisms and drive out demons where Protestantism takes a more tolerant and head in the sand approach.

I can confidently assert that the Pentecostals and charismatics go boldly where your priests fear to tread - and without incantations, without 'holy water', without all the baubles and talismans. All they have is the promise and the power of the Name. And they do it on such a regular basis that it is commonplace.

182 posted on 05/28/2013 3:41:23 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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