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To: MSSC6644
The Cloward-Piven strategy, which has been employed by the left since the 60s, and by Obama his whole career, is designed to bring about the collapse of the system so the marxists can revise America from the rubble. The belief was they can't create their utopia until the country is desperate, so use the system against itself to bring about its collapse.

The problem is it has worked too well, and we are now well on the path to imposition of a global socialist/fascist allied with islamofascism against the wishes of the remnant population of Americans who still think as Americans. The remnant population is currently a majority, but divided because of the destruction of the education system and the development of the low information voter. Those of us who are knowledgable Americans and who are alarmed at the rise of tyranny are currently a minority. Not a small minority, as were the marxists in the 1960s, but a minority.

Things do not look good for our side. To reverse the trend and restore a country that even remotely resembles America requires a miracle. It requires defeat of amnesty bills, enforcement of immigration laws, victory in Congress and obtaining the Presidency in 2016, the political will to reverse all that Obama did in the next administration and to start reversing the welfare state in spite of the firestorm in the media, and THEN a long, slow march through the institutions (education, the media, entertainment, churches, bureaucracies, etc.) by conservatives to match the march that leftists have been on since the early 20th century. You can't replace the teachers and the journalists in one fell swoop, it will take decades, 50 years or more.

I don't see it happening. The left had its manifesto, and its leadership that imposed political correctness and organized the strategy, and it took them 100 years to get to this point. We don't have that kind of freedom or time. There weren't databases in 1920, just files in a cabinet. The light of freedom is flickering. The best we have, Limbaugh, Cruz, Rand Paul, Jim DeMint, Sarah Palin, don't command armies of blindly obedient drones, and don't have a long term strategy for retaking the country beyond trying to stop the left from destroying what's left of our freedom. No one is on the horizon to be that person, either.

The situation of the 60s may now be reversed. Freedom loving constitutionalists are the upstarts, the fringe nutjobs. Everyone else either doesn't care, doesn't know or approves of the imposition of a leftist tyranny. We are in a position where we have to create conditions that allow us to defeat the left and restore America when it can't be done by using the system as it has been defiled.

How? I would suggest a Cloward Piven of the right. Rather than let another 10, 20, 30 years go by, when we are fewer, fringier, older and weaker, and then say, "enough! It's time to fight", we still have the country and the military right now. (Imagine the homosexualized military in 20 years). We need to collapse the system sooner rather than later. Kind of a variation of Atlas Shrugged, but only one aspect of the collapse would be from "going Galt". Part of it could be doing whatever we can to use the absurdities of the liberal economic and political policies against it--from applying for welfare and subsidies to dumping treasuries to letting illegals take all the jobs. Don't fight the stupidity, pile it on and let it collapse of its own weight. Then, an organized and determined movement of the American remnant might just be able to rise from the chaos, led by the states that have not yet been overtaken by foreigners and the 47 percent.

27 posted on 05/24/2013 11:52:25 AM PDT by Defiant (The answer to Francis Scott Key's question is: No, it does not. That land is no more.)
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To: Defiant
You see that we need a miracle (To reverse the trend and restore a country that even remotely resembles America requires a miracle.), yet you still think WE can pull it off. I'm confused. This is the last time I will start a thread with the word, "Perhaps."
32 posted on 05/24/2013 12:06:49 PM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan: pray the Rosary.)
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