“Chrstians begin with the assumption that J*sus is messiah and then retroject that into the Hebrew Bible.”
Joseph Ben Uziel, 30 years before the time of Christ, in his paraphrase of Isaiah 9:6:
“The prophet said to the house of David, For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and He has taken the law upon Himself to keep it. His name is called from eternity. Wonderful, The Mighty God, who liveth to eternity, The Messiah, whose peace shall be great upon us in His days.” (The Chaldee paraphrase on the prophet Isaiah [by Jonathan b. Uziel] tr. by C.W.H. Pauli)
It seems that Jews, at least THESE days, come from the assumption that Jesus is not the Messiah, and therefore they reject the plain teachings of the Holy Scripture. The Apostles did not argue from any assumption, they argued from the scripture.
Act 8:30-35 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? (31) And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. (32) The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: (33) In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. (34) And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? (35) Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
I’d rather stick to the scripture, than all the flaky teachings of Judaism that are popular today.
Torah, flaky? Not to me.
Using a phrase from the uninspired Talmud When we all know that the Roman "church was started Interesting circular reasoning.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
to prove the superiority of the Roman" church".
by the Roman Pontiff Constantine at Nicea in 325 CE.