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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
So he's saying the Pope published a lie in 2000?

the Third Secret of Fatima, not yet revealed by the Vatican,

2 posted on 05/22/2013 1:01:26 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Whatever happened to the letter that floated down from heaven from Mary, that would be revealed in 1960 ?


3 posted on 05/22/2013 1:04:57 PM PDT by knarf (uals-two logic)
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To: DManA
and even Cardinal Ratzinger (the future pope Benedict XVI) that the Third Secret of Fatima, not yet revealed by the Vatican, predicts a spiritual crisis in the bosom of the Church.

Here's what Ratzinger actually said:

A careful reading of the text of the so-called third 'secret' of Fatima ... will probably prove disappointing or surprising after all the speculation it has stirred. No great mystery is revealed; nor is the future unveiled.

4 posted on 05/22/2013 1:09:20 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
So he's saying the Pope published a lie in 2000?

That does appear to be what many Catholic FReepers allege.

5 posted on 05/22/2013 1:14:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: DManA
Most conservative Catholics I know don't really believe the Vatican revealed the whole Third Secret in 2000. I'm not speaking about trads or SSPXers here, just orthodox Catholics who agree with Mother Angelica's view. Mother Angelica said this on her live television show of May 16, 2001:

As for the Secret, well I happen to be one of those individuals who thinks we didn’t get the whole thing. I told ya! I mean, you have the right to your own opinion, don’t you, Father? There, you know, that’s my opinion. Because I think it’s scary. And I don’t think the Holy See is going to say something that does not happen, that might happen. And then what does it do if it doesn’t happen? I mean the Holy See cannot afford to make prophecies, because. I know, —I don’t know—my funeral . . . It’s not me, so don’t look at me . . . Something’s gonna happen soon. It could be twenty years before it happens. So to God “soon” could be a thousand years. We don’t know that.

The Vatican Secretary of State office was the primary proponent and author of the Vatican party line on Fatima including everything related to the year 2000 release of the Third Secret. Cardinal Ratzinger was writing under the thumb of the Secretary of State in 2000 and I think he regrets what he said then. He has even gone so far as to contradict what he said then in 2000 when he made subsequent comments about Fatima on his flight there in 2010.

I just don't trust the Vatican Secretary of State office. Many of the biggest problems in the Vatican come from that office insinuating itself into every Vatican function and placing itself between the Vatican Curia and the Popes.

Look up the Vatican Moscow Treaty/pact. I think that pact dictates the approach of the Vatican Secretary of State office to this day and contributes to & dictates their position on Fatima.

6 posted on 05/22/2013 1:40:57 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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