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Fatima, Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960
Consecration Now Conference ^ | May 13, 2011 | John Salza

Posted on 05/22/2013 12:57:42 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

“Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960”
By John Salza

Consecration Now Conference

Rome, May 13, 2011

There is a body of clear and compelling testimony from the likes of Cardinal Pacelli (future Pope Pius XII), Fr. Fuentes, Fr. Alonso, Fr. Schweigl ,Cardinal Oddi, Cardinal Ciappi, Fr. Malachi Martin, and even Cardinal Ratzinger (the future pope Benedict XVI) that the Third Secret of Fatima, not yet revealed by the Vatican, predicts a spiritual crisis in the bosom of the Church. In this presentation, I am going to elaborate on this theme, by demonstrating that this crisis is nothing less than a world - wide apostasy from the Catholic Faith fueled by the principles of Freemasonry, which would penetrate the Church using an ecumenical council, corrupt the hierarchy, and threaten the gravest spiritual and material chastisements in world history. Note well that the Third Secret does not just announce the crisis; it identifies the causes of the crisis – and the primary cause of the crisis is the doctrinal compromises of the hijackers of Vatican II who sought to give the Church a “new orientation” rather than unequivocally affirming what she is – the Mystical Body of Christ...

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; fatima; freemasonry; freemasons; thirdsecret; vatican2; vaticanii
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Some people have to have somebody to hate/blame.


21 posted on 05/22/2013 4:11:15 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ever Read The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita?


22 posted on 05/22/2013 4:37:20 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Ever Read The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita?

Never heard of it; don't know what it is.

23 posted on 05/22/2013 4:45:18 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Maybe you should.

"Our ultimate end is that of Voltaire and of the French Revolution - the final destruction of Catholicism, and even of the Christian idea."
The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita

The Alta Vendita was the highest lodge of the Carbonari and the instruction was promulgated in the early 19th century.

24 posted on 05/22/2013 4:58:42 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

People forget that Masonry declared war on the Church centuries ago and has acted on it numerous times in the past. But us Catholics are just being “hateful” when we point out the dangers of Freemasonry.


25 posted on 05/22/2013 5:05:59 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I was hoping when I clicked on your post that I would find a Catholic defending the historicity of Genesis 1-11. I should have known better.

Until you are prepared to do this, don't ping me.

26 posted on 05/22/2013 5:35:58 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Finatic; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

27 posted on 05/22/2013 6:09:33 PM PDT by narses
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This thread isn’t about Genesis. Until you’re interested in discussing the topic of the thread, please leave us alone. Feel free to debate your pet peeve elsewhere.


28 posted on 05/22/2013 6:16:35 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I don't dance to your tune, kid.

Stay out of the kitchen.

29 posted on 05/22/2013 6:32:45 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
This thread isn’t about Genesis. Until you’re interested in discussing the topic of the thread, please leave us alone. Feel free to debate your pet peeve elsewhere.

Thanks for letting me know where you, a "hardline traditionalist," stand on the topic.

I guess that's why you're still here. Whenever a Catholic comes here who does defend the inerrancy of the Written Word of G-d your co-religionists waste no time in getting him banned.

30 posted on 05/22/2013 7:18:25 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

So... Y’all sedevacantists finally coming out of the closet?


31 posted on 05/22/2013 7:20:55 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I don't dance to your tune, kid.

Stay out of the kitchen.

Says the guy who believes the Masons are plotting to rule the world but who can't bring himself to defend the canonized Word of G-d. Are you one of those people who wants the return of the Middle Ages, only with evolution? Hey, maybe creationism is a Masonic plot!

I don't have any use for the Masons, but any "religion" blasphemous to call into question the very words of G-d Himself deserves to be destroyed.

32 posted on 05/22/2013 7:22:41 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Dr. Brian Kopp
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.

33 posted on 05/22/2013 7:32:04 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: RegulatorCountry

You obviously don’t understand the term if you know my posting history here yet accuse me of that. Nonetheless I do believe there is a faction in the Vatican that has sought to downplay and silence the message of Fatima since Vatican II and this presentation does as good a job at analyzing that fact as anything I’ve seen.


34 posted on 05/22/2013 7:36:33 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you.


35 posted on 05/22/2013 7:38:20 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I understand the term well enough to know the tropes when I read or hear them. If you’re not, you’re flirting with it and I suspect know more than a few.


36 posted on 05/22/2013 7:41:51 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You know far less than that for which you give yourself credit. (Heck, I’ve written for the Vatican paper L’Osservatore Romano. I can assure you that under its modern editors no sedevacantists or crypto sedevacantists get published there.)


37 posted on 05/22/2013 7:48:33 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: RegulatorCountry

I suspect you’re confusing sedevacantists with Lefevrists. I attend a diocesan ordinary form (Novus Ordo) mass daily and the diocesan extraordinary form (Traditional Latin) mass most Sundays. Sedes and SSPXers wouldn’t be caught dead at either ;-)


38 posted on 05/22/2013 8:52:06 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Rashputin

Abuse report filed.


40 posted on 05/23/2013 6:13:38 AM PDT by BlueDragon (licensed to kill...gophers.)
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