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To: daniel1212

False analogy, as souls are not forgiven before repentance and faith,
***While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.


27 posted on 05/14/2013 7:29:36 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
False analogy, as souls are not forgiven before repentance and faith,

False analogy, as souls are not forgiven before repentance and faith, ***While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Your theology is also very superficial, as the fact that Christ died for us does not mean souls are already forgiven, but they must repent and believe in order to be so.

The NT does not just preach that God love them, nor that they are already forgiven because of what Christ did, but tells souls they are damned+destitute and in need of salvation, which is why convicted souls cried out for how.

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (Acts 2:23)

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:34-36)

And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. (Acts 10:42)

And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. (Acts 13:39-41)

And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: (Acts 14:15)

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (Acts 17:30)

And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee. (Acts 24:25)

37 posted on 05/14/2013 8:09:13 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Kevmo; daniel1212
***While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Yes, that is true. Forgiveness is available to and offered to all, but is not automatically imputed onto everyone.

It is a gift that must be accepted.

John 1:12-13 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

66 posted on 05/15/2013 6:10:04 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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