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To: daniel1212
Do you believe all those who do not keep the 7th day commandment, once told, are lost?

That is asking me to judge and that is not a command given to us. But what was given to us was to speak no deceit and so the truth is, He gave us His Sabbath, it is the 'sign' of His people whether Jew or Gentile. Our Messiah is the Lord of the seventh day Sabbath, the day in which He actually resurrected, so from here, the decision is up to those who read this. To study it out for themselves, to show themselves approved by working our their own salvation. Messiah came to redeem us from lawlessness, not to form new laws according to doctrines and traditions that had been in place my pagan religions for centuries before Messiah, the Word of God, came in the flesh.

Tit 2:14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. 15 Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.

The Word of God put in flesh, the Word of God walked in the flesh as an example of how we are to walk in the flesh. The Word of God was crucified, died and was buried and on the 3rd day, His Sabbath, the Word of God resurrected in newness of life. The only Word of God that existed at the time was that which is found left of Matthew that put on flesh just as the Word of God told us in Lk 24 and that Word of God is Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms. The same Word of God that Timothy had known from his childhood that ...

2Ti 3:15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Paul was not speaking of any Scripture that did not exist in Scripture form when he taught & preached. Paul was speaking of the only Word of God known to them and that was their Hebrew Scriptures that the church renamed the 'old' testament in order to profit from their false doctrine and invisible 'new' covenant that is no where to be found anywhere in any of the words of the Word of God, even when He was with us in the flesh.

177 posted on 05/13/2013 7:36:47 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
Do you believe all those who do not keep the 7th day commandment, once told, are lost?

That is asking me to judge and that is not a command given to us. That is a cop out, as Scripture states those who preach a false gospel are accursed. (Gal. 1:7-9)

Paul was not speaking of any Scripture that did not exist in Scripture form when he taught & preached. Paul was speaking of the only Word of God known to them and that was their Hebrew Scriptures that the church renamed the 'old' testament in order to profit from their false doctrine and invisible 'new' covenant that is no where to be found anywhere in any of the words of the Word of God, even when He was with us in the flesh.

Thus this places all back under the law, including circumcision as this is what you are left with without abrogation of such laws, and thus you are condemning all who do not keep the 7th day, which is to your own damnation, to which i now leave you.

198 posted on 05/14/2013 4:05:46 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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