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To: roamer_1

Really? What about the rules of the Sabbath? Or the talk about it’s not what goes into one’s mouth that is sinful, but what comes out of one’s mouth?

Just to name a few.

I think metmom was trying to suggest that the disciples left Jesus when he talked about eating his flesh and drinking his blood because he spoke of blood which went against OT law and tradition.

My point was that that wasn’t the first time Jesus taught something that went against OT law and tradition. It , however, was the first time it was recorded how hard the teaching was and that disciples left him.

And he didn’t call to them....”wait! you misunderstood what I was saying!! Come back!”

Not a symbol. Again, not a symbol.


176 posted on 05/11/2013 1:13:02 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv; roamer_1
I think metmom was trying to suggest that the disciples left Jesus when he talked about eating his flesh and drinking his blood because he spoke of blood which went against OT law and tradition.

My point was that that wasn’t the first time Jesus taught something that went against OT law and tradition. It , however, was the first time it was recorded how hard the teaching was and that disciples left him.

Those people only thought He did because they were not focused on the spiritual, but the physical. Jesus Himself says so.

Matthew 5:17-20 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus not only DIDN'T teach anything that went against the OT, He COULDN'T have.

186 posted on 05/11/2013 2:18:24 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: piusv; metmom
Really? What about the rules of the Sabbath? Or the talk about it’s not what goes into one’s mouth that is sinful, but what comes out of one’s mouth? Just to name a few.

There is *nothing* He said that changed the Sabbath in any way. And as to in/out of the mouth, it is a stricter sense of the law, not a looser one - In every case He imposed a tighter adherence by stating that the doing alone is not the sin... even thinking it is a sin.

My point was that that wasn’t the first time Jesus taught something that went against OT law and tradition. It , however, was the first time it was recorded how hard the teaching was and that disciples left him.

Yeshua never taught against the Torah. Not one time. And if He did, He cannot be Messiah. In fact, He cannot have added to the Torah either, or He cannot be Messiah. What you have been taught cannot, I repeat, CANNOT be.

Not a symbol. Again, not a symbol.

As you already said, it is what comes out of a man's mouth, not what goes in.

205 posted on 05/11/2013 4:08:07 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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