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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

This is quick. Only home briefly. So, if I didn’t cover it all, I’ll be back sometime.

**And, how is it that God is able to form another separate God?**

He didn’t.

**Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.**

The Son constantly referred to his Father. The Holy Ghost proceedeth from the Father (which is what the Son said to be the case). Now.......you can say, in your three separate system, that the Father is the father of the Son, and that the Holy Ghost is is the father as well, therefore God had two fathers.....(facepalm).

**The Holy Spirit is sent by both the Father and the Son, as He is called both the “Spirit of God” and “The Spirit of Christ,”**

And in those passages, the Spirit is never called “God the Holy Spirit (Ghost)”. It’s the Spirit that raised Christ from the dead. “..that like as Christ was raised by the GLORY OF THE FATHER...”. Rom. 6:4

“..If we believe on him”..(which ‘person’?)..”that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead..”. Rom. 4:24

Everything divine is traced back to the Father.

**“The Word is WITH God AND IS God,” to prove they are both distinct and yet one God.**

So.....someone else does the talking for you?

**Word that was made flesh (Christ) is actually God all along.**

The image of the invisible God. Not ‘God the image’. “God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself” 2Cor. 5:19. The invisible God just so happens to be the Father. Jesus Christ showed you that in his prayer in John 17:1-3 (remember?....one of the several questions you still haven’t answered.)

**To be honest with you, I am perfectly indifferent to your presence, so there’s no need to tell me your schedule all the time.**

I’m glad you’re being honest with me. Actually you once equired as to my absence, remember?...(from your post 1017)

**(I’m not sure why you needed time to know how to reply,**

Actually, giving my schedule out is a bit of a OTR driver’s habit. We seem to always be giving out such info to dispatchers, logistics brokers, shippers, receivers, and of course, the WIFE!


1,239 posted on 05/29/2013 9:48:34 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel

“Now.......you can say, in your three separate system, that the Father is the father of the Son, and that the Holy Ghost is is the father as well, therefore God had two fathers.....(facepalm).”


I was responding to your assertion that the Father physically produced Jesus, so therefore I quoted that it is the Holy Spirit’s doing. In other words, what you just accused me of, was your position, not mine.

You also ignored the first part of my response as well. Kind of makes it pointless to respond to you, if you’ll just cherry pick parts of my post and make pointless retorts about arguments I did not make.

“And in those passages, the Spirit is never called “God the Holy Spirit (Ghost)”.”


Again, the cherry picking and ignoring of most of what I say. I’ll just copy and paste the previous example I used of the Holy Spirit being called God:

Act 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? (4) Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Did they lie to the Holy Ghost, or did they lie to God? Is the Holy Spirit God because He has the Father in Him too? So goes your silly argument.

It’s tedious to have to repeat points I’ve made just so you can ignore them like they were never made at all.

All the rest of your assertions I already responded to, though you responded to none of my points which refute them.

“I’m glad you’re being honest with me. Actually you once equired as to my absence, remember?...(from your post 1017)”


Here’s post 1017:

“We’ve been over this before. Christ continues: “At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.”

Thus, your proof text that every scripture where Christ is called God is simply referring to the Father “in Him” simply doesn’t fly, because Christ here is only telling us of the special unity we have with Christians with our God. If taken as you do, then we also can claim to be God, receive worship, and make the claims that Christ does, because the Father is in Christ, and Christ is in us.

Each of your “I say..” comments is based upon this one premise, which you’ve repeated each time you’ve posted to me. (I’m not sure why you needed time to know how to reply, when this post is nearly identical to what you’ve told me before!) Therefore, I have to settle with the plain words of the scripture which declare that Jesus has always been with God, and is God, and “the same in the beginning with God.”

Looks like back then I couldn’t care less either, and was still frustrated, 200 posts ago, about the repetitious nature of the arguments you present me.


1,240 posted on 05/29/2013 10:09:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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