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To: Zuriel

“The Son was annointed by someone. Musta been the Father, since that’s the only one the Son credits for empowering him. “..therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee..” “


Just FYI:

Isa_44:6 ... I am the first, and I am the last; and BESIDE me THERE IS NO GOD.

If the Father calls the Son God. Therefore, they must be the same God.

On Jesus Christ:

Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

“The ‘beginning’ was the creation of the Son. “


Joh 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God.

Ooops, it says In the beginning was the WORD... AND “The same was in the beginning with GOD.”

If the Word was created at the beginning, so was GOD. And, just FYI, the Word IS God.

“Since you believe in ‘the plain reading’ of the scriptures, show me the chapter and verse, where the Son speaks verbatum of the Holy Ghost sending him. “


Isa_48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

“That’s your logic.”


Nope, pretty sure it’s yours.

“That’s over 100 references (from the book of John alone) showing that the Son’s source of ALL things divine, ALL power, ALL wisdom, etc., is from God the Father. “


And Jesus is God the Son, who on Earth depended entirely upon the will of the Father, to save a world that was created for Him, by Him, and for His enjoyment.

Col 1:15-17 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: (16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: (17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Gen_1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Oops!


1,231 posted on 05/26/2013 5:11:40 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

**Isa_44:6 ... I am the first, and I am the last; and BESIDE me THERE IS NO GOD.**

I like all of the ‘first and last’ verses. The Father’ that dwells in Christ (the Son said it’s so, like it or not), MADE him the first and last. And that God, spoke from him then in prophecy, and speaks from him now. (Heb. 1:1)

**If the Father calls the Son God. Therefore, they must be the same God.**

The omnipresent Father is in Christ, and has GIVEN him all power. Matt. 28:18

**Isa_48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.**

‘the Lord God (that would be the Father), and HIS Spirit (there’s that pesky possessive!), sent the Son of God (a phrase you insist on modifying to ‘God the Son’. a phrase found nowhere in the WORD) who has the Father dwelling in him.

**Joh 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God.**

God the Father has no beginning, if he does, who made him, if thou canst tell? God the Father begat the Son; there’s your beginning. Then everything else in history follows.

**And Jesus is God the Son**

Satan (cringe), Peter, and Martha called him the Son of God. I think they know better than you. Peter even used the name of Jesus in baptism (oh, that’s right,...that one of those several points you’ve continued to dodge)

**who on Earth depended entirely upon the will of the Father, to save a world that was created for Him, by Him, and for His enjoyment.**

So, the ‘second person of God’ was entirely powerless for approx. 33 yrs. (picturing a scenario: The Son says to himself, “well, I could heal this leper myself, but the Father insists on doing all the miracles for now).

**Col 1:15-17 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:..........Gen_1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.**

I agree with that, and that the Son is the firstborn, but again, who made the Father?.....oh, that’s right, you haven’t answered that.

Inquiring minds would like to know.


1,232 posted on 05/26/2013 7:40:59 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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