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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Sorry for not answering sooner, We spent yesterday with our daughter’s family and brought our 4 year old grandson home with us.

“Men have also determined Mary was born by an immaculate conception.”


That’s not in the scripture, but this is:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Therefore your comparison fails.

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You keep referring to that scripture to prove what I feel men use to define what a Christian is. I suspect you have others.

One definition of a Christian is; “One who believes in the teaching of the Christ.”

Lets look at how the Christ describes those who believe in Him;

John 14:12-14
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask[a] anything in My name, I will do it.

Mark 16:17-19
17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they[a] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

The Christ said to do those things in His Name, not by His power. All through Acts Christians did similar things in His name.

Hebrews 13:8
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Do you believe His Church is doing any of those things today?

If not, why not?

My original post asked if you thought a righteous God could punish you if He could not prove a man can live a sinless life. I believe we have agreed that we are all sinners. You posted scripture to prove it but I believe you did not answer the question I posed.

One definition of righteousness is; “Morally right or justifiable.”

Do you believe God is morally right or justified if He punishes you for something He cannot prove you can accomplish?

My God our Father lead us to His truth, BVB


1,226 posted on 05/25/2013 10:01:28 AM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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To: Bobsvainbabblings

“You keep referring to that scripture to prove what I feel men use”


Well of course I keep using it, and there are many others where it came from, and they all say quite clearly “Jesus is God.” What do I care if Bob, a mere man, denies the meaning of words? It makes the rest of your post utterly irrelevant.

“You posted scripture to prove it but I believe you did not answer the question I posed.”


I did answer it. I told you that Christ is fully man and fully God, and therefore there is no contradiction. I’ll add, however, that the inability of the depraved criminal to not commit crimes does not save him from the penalty of the law.


1,227 posted on 05/25/2013 1:17:15 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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