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To: metmom

I did not specify “before marriage”, but will admit that it is perhaps as erosive and destructive as is the practice of dowry, the selling of young women to old men for the profit of her family.

Perhaps it is the custom of dowry which originally led socialists to imagine that a state of “free love” was better than monogamous marriage, which they saw as just a social contrivance, instead of biologically advantageous, far better for all than animalistic reproduction.

Though it was demonstrably a disaster in the early Soviet Union, with Lenin being pragmatic enough to cancel it after introducing it; leftists have still maintained and promulgated the fantasy to this day.

In the United States, a combination of arranged marriage and a stifling and repulsive protestant religious structure in middle America finally resulted with an effort to overcome these things at Indiana University, via the Kinsey organization.

And thus, the “sexual revolution”, replacing repression and inhibition with anarchy, venereal disease, the sexualization of young children, and “survival” oriented offspring, instead of “success” oriented children. Such children are often “Brutish beasts” in their behavior.

To a great extent, this is why America’s prisons are filled with such people, far more than in societies with a strong sense of the value of marriage.

In America, those who suffer the most are those who are the least sexually inhibited. African immigrants who come to America are horrified by, and take steps to avoid, slave-descended black Americans, whose behavior the Africans describe as “like that of animals”. White Americans are forbidden, however, from making the same observation, and go to lengths to conceal it.

And yet, culturally, to point out the horrors that result from sex outside of marriage is also strongly discouraged.

Endless scientific papers try to justify sex outside of marriage by comparing people to primates while neglecting the complete story.

For example, dominant male chimpanzees keep harems of females, yet just outside the male’s territory are other males who seek to cheat with members of his harem. Thus, since chimpanzees do this, it is natural that humans should, as well, goes their argument.

But they never mention that if the dominant male chimpanzee catches them at this, he will kill both the interloper and the female. So human homicide of a cheating spouse and their lover is also “natural”, using their same bad logic.

Ah, but nature itself is rebelling against such nonsense, most recently with a new, improved gonorrhea, antibiotic resistant, that might even prove lethal a few days after infection, due to toxic shock syndrome. And we have no way of curing it, so once infected, people are stuck with it.

And one of the characteristic symptoms of untreated gonorrhea is sterility. So though they will continue to spread the disease, they will produce no more cursed offspring, victims to their parents pursuit of pleasure.


28 posted on 05/11/2013 7:33:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You do realize that you were just courtesy pinged to that post?

My post was not directed to you or YOUR comment.


29 posted on 05/11/2013 7:44:30 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
To a great extent, this is why America’s prisons are filled with such people, far more than in societies with a strong sense of the value of marriage.

There is an excellent book called, *Father Fiction* by Don Miller, which addresses this issue and he is currently making a big push towards resolving the issue.

For example, dominant male chimpanzees keep harems of females, yet just outside the male’s territory are other males who seek to cheat with members of his harem. Thus, since chimpanzees do this, it is natural that humans should, as well, goes their argument.

But they never mention that if the dominant male chimpanzee catches them at this, he will kill both the interloper and the female. So human homicide of a cheating spouse and their lover is also “natural”, using their same bad logic.

I find it ironic that when liberals appeal to nature to justify human behavior, the same argument that is used to justify homosexual behavior, if a conservative agree that homosexuals were acting like animals, they would be castigated.

Sex outside marriage leads to no good thing and I don't see ANY believers giving sex before marriage a free pass. On the contrary, I always hear of attempts, usually and often thwarted by the liberals, to remain chaste until marriage. It's preached regularly from any pulpit I've heard preaching from.

35 posted on 05/11/2013 8:50:13 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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