[1raider1]

However, we assert that heaven is not a “place” in the way that there is “place” within our universe – heaven is not out among the stars. Rather, we say that heaven is “glorified place” or “uncontained space”, meaning that it is not within our universe or contained within our universe.

Look, this talk of "outside the universe" and "other universes" is bunk. The term "The Universe" is the designation for ALL there is. There is only ONE Universe. That's why it's called The Universe. If something is outside the Universe, it doesn't exist. Heaven is indeed within the Universe. If Jesus is alive physically, He's in the Universe. If He's not in the Universe, then He is a spirit and all of the things concerning eternal life, as related in the Bible, are untrue.

[circlecity]

"If something is outside the Universe, it doesn't exist."

Then where was God before he created the universe?