It's probably just a tradition of men or a vain philosophy, but where I come from if we're going to talk about something we often start by trying to get clear on what it is we're talking about.
Here the question would be what do we mean by "Church" and by "The Church."
77 posted on 04/23/2013 3:38:46 PM PDT by Mad Dawg
(In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)