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To: CynicalBear
Do you believe in the old testament or the new? The new testament clearly establishes peter as the Rock.

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

153 posted on 04/23/2013 5:51:36 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

God shares His glory with no man. That goes for Peter as well as anyone else. Jesus Christ is the Rock, and Peter confessed Christ as the Messiah. Jesus Christ is the Solid Rock, and those who believe in Him (not some imaginary ecclesiastical church, not Peter, not the Pope, nor upon any other man or organization), are building on a sure foundation. “On CHRIST THE SOLID ROCK I STAND, ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND.”


155 posted on 04/23/2013 5:59:31 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: FatherofFive
In Matthew 16 Jesus is talking to all of the Apostles. They were all asked the question of who they thought He was. Though Peter was the one who answered for the group Jesus was talking to them all. When Peter said that they believed He was “Christ the Son of the Living God” Jesus replied and said that it was not flesh and blood that had revealed that to Peter but that it was “my Father which is in heaven”. He then says to Peter “and thou art Peter”, acknowledging that He knew who Peter was just as Peter knew who Jesus was. Then Jesus, referring back to “my Father which is in heaven”, says, “upon this rock I will build my church”.

Isaiah 44:8, "Is there any God besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none."

>>The new testament clearly establishes peter as the Rock.<<

Oh really?

Rom. 9:33, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, and he who believes in Him will not be disappointed."

1 Cor. 3:11, "For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ,"

1 Cor. 10:4, "and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock (petras) which followed them; and the rock (petra) was Christ."

157 posted on 04/23/2013 6:02:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: FatherofFive
"Do you believe in the old testament or the new?"

You don't believe the Old Testament? What?

160 posted on 04/23/2013 6:06:17 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization))
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To: FatherofFive
“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Nope...Doesn't make good English, or Greek...I have a feeling Jesus passed all of his Greek classes...Your guys built an entire religion on the perversion of that one verse...

We have a bible full of rocks...We KNOW who the rock is...

And how do you know the gates of Hell are not prevailing against your religion right now...Because your unbiblical, unGodly 'holy father' tells you so???

2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

195 posted on 04/24/2013 6:38:31 AM PDT by Iscool
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