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To: Ultra Sonic 007; Iscool

“Simple fact is, without the Catholic Church, there would be no Bible.”


Which Catholic Church? According to “Pope” Gregory the First, the Bishops of Rome, Antioch and Alexandria all possessed the same throne of Peter:

“Whereas there were many apostles, yet for the principality itself, one only see of the apostles prevailed, in authority, which is of one, but in three places. For he elevated the see in which he condescended to rest, and to finish his present life. He decorated the see, to which he sent his disciple the evangelist, and he established the see, in which, although he intended to leave it, he sat for seven years. Since there fore the see is of one and is one, over which three bishops preside by divine authority, whatsoever good I hear of you, I ascribe to myself. And if you hear any good of me, number it among your merits, be- cause we are all one in him who says, that all should be one, as thou, O Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they may be one in us. — In the Eulogy’ to the Bishop of Alexandria

Theodoret references the same belief when he places the “throne of Peter” under the Bishop of Antioch:

“Dioscorus, however, refuses to abide by these decisions; he is turning the See of the blessed Mark upside down; and these things he does though he perfectly well knows that the Antiochene (of Antioch) metropolis possesses the throne of the great Peter, who was teacher of the blessed Mark, and first and coryphæus (head of the choir) of the chorus of the apostles.” Theodoret - Letter LXXXVI - To Flavianus, Bishop of Constantinople.

Looks like even 600 years later, the continuous doctrine of the Primacy of Rome STILL wasn’t quite worked out, was it?

So, should I believe that God preserved the scriptures, or that changing-men preserved the scriptures?


21 posted on 04/23/2013 1:10:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Which Catholic Church? According to “Pope” Gregory the First, the Bishops of Rome, Antioch and Alexandria all possessed the same throne of Peter:”

And the Patriarchs of Rome, Antioch and Alexandria all believe in both Scripture and Tradition, Apostolic Succession, Seven Sacraments, Marian Veneration, Saints. And their Old Testament includes the Deuterocanonicals.

The Catholic, Orthodox and Coptic Churches all go back to the first century, and all have a commonality and mutual understanding that the evangelical churches do not have.


23 posted on 04/23/2013 3:41:38 PM PDT by Hilda
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
First of all it is NOT from a "Eulogy’ to the Bishop of Alexandria", it is from a letter to Eulogius, the Bishop of Alexandria. And while he does seem to play around with the idea of three sees really being one (very Trinitarian, that) He also writes to Eulogius:

"Who does not know that the holy Church is founded on the solidity of the Chief Apostle, whose name expressed his firmness, being called Peter from Petra (Rock)?...Though there were many Apostles, only the See of the Prince of the Apostles...received supreme authority in virtue of its very principate." (Letter to the Patriarch Eulogius of Alexandria, Ep. 7)

And also in Epistle 13.50, he speaks of:
"the Apostolic See, which is the head of all Churches"

58 posted on 04/24/2013 8:24:34 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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