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To: 1010RD; Mrs. Don-o
but the facts don’t hold

Which "facts don't hold"?

The Bible facts, as presented in this article (or in the writings of myriad Protestant commentators, if you prefer)?
The physical facts of healthy human biology?
The dictionary facts of the definition of "contraception"?
The historical facts of what all Christian confessions consistently taught until the 1930s?
The historical facts of what has happened to churches and societies since the acceptance of contraception?

It seems as if *mentally drawing a diagram of a set of scales* all these facts would have some weight ... but for our society, on the other side of scales is the "brick" that reads, "We like contraception, because then we have sex on demand without children." And that ends it.

41 posted on 04/25/2013 6:24:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I think amnesty is deader than a Chechen bomber." ~ LS)
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To: Tax-chick; Mrs. Don-o

Msgr. Charles Pope is a Catholic and is trying to sustain the Catholic belief and teachings on contraception.

Here’s the dictionary definition of contraception:

http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?action=search&word=contraception&resource=Webster%27s&quicksearch=on

There isn’t one from either the 1928 or 1913 Webster dictionaries.

It is a modern word, first recorded in 1891. Our knowledge of when human life begins has rocketed forward since that time. You may believe that contraception is wrong or immoral, but that doesn’t make it so. Nor must it naturally lead to homosexuality, adultery, fornication or abortion.

Clearly it happened long ago as well and is not a modern disease:

http://bible.cc/galatians/5-19.htm

This site is very good for understanding the Bible and what it really says in the NT Greek or OT Hebrew.

Compare what Msgr. Pope infers and what the original really says. All the verses he quotes are available.

Here’s Matthew 5:19 which he doesn’t quote:

http://bible.cc/matthew/15-19.htm

Here is Rev 21:8:

http://bible.cc/revelation/21-8.htm

My experience with Catholicism is that its adherents understand the Bible only less so than their priests. The interpretations are bent so as to buttress a doctrine with little or tangential Biblical support. If it is by divine revelation to a Pope, then so be it.

http://bible.cc/genesis/1-28.htm

Genesis 1:28 is an express command to marry and procreate. It would have been simple for God to also command that we may take no action to avoid procreation, but He didn’t. We, as a part of the natural world, may choose. That is not unnatural.

Not marrying is unnatural and against God.

You may believe as you see fit. It is, as always, your choice.


43 posted on 04/26/2013 4:15:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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