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To: DouglasKC
Since the trinity doctrine wasn't drawn from the Scriptures it finds no support there leaving the fall back position that this makes no difference as it is a “mystery” incomprehensible to the human mind.

But search as we will the Son is always spoken of as being inferior to the Father in the Scriptures.

28 posted on 04/15/2013 5:51:36 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
But search as we will the Son is always spoken of as being inferior to the Father in the Scriptures.

The son certainly seems to point toward the father in all things...maybe inferior isnt' the right word but certainly there seems to be a deference to the father.

32 posted on 04/15/2013 6:01:13 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: count-your-change

All of the people who selected the canon of your New testament professed the Trinity through the Nicene Creed.


118 posted on 04/15/2013 9:55:41 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: count-your-change
Since the trinity doctrine wasn't drawn from the Scriptures it finds no support there leaving the fall back position that this makes no difference as it is a “mystery” incomprehensible to the human mind.

But search as we will the Son is always spoken of as being inferior to the Father in the Scriptures.

Normally. "The Father and I are one" is one of the exceptions. What we are missing are most of the writings of the early Church in which these matters were discussed in depth for centuries.

221 posted on 04/16/2013 3:07:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: count-your-change
Are you saying that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not God?

John 1:1-3,14

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. ... And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Philippians 2:5-10

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

As for the Holy Spirit, see post #219

228 posted on 04/16/2013 3:40:41 PM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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