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To: JCBreckenridge

**You mean the Assumption? Mary was not resurrected. She did not die.**

YOCPIOS (your own church’s personal interpretation of scripture)

**scripture explicitly states that she was ‘full of grace’. Do you believe that someone who is full of grace can sin?**

YOCPIOS. She was given unprecedented favor, in that she would be used to bring forth the fleshly tabernacle of God.

**Again - we see it in Acts. The church appointed one of their own to succeed. Apostolic succession is biblical.**

Sad that your organization won’t follow the man they claim as the first bishop, who followed Jesus Christ orders perfectly, when he ordered baptism in the NAME of JESUS. He knew the name of the Father was JESUS, for the Christ told him that he came in his Father’s name. Peter knew that the Son’s name was JESUS (duh). And Peter knew that the Holy Ghost was to be sent by the Father, in the name of Jesus. (I don’t care how old you claim your church is. Paul ran into people distorting it while on his missionary journeys)

**Peter was in Rome.**

Maybe, maybe not. But, it would certainly help to create more legitimacy if he was said to have been there. Pretty easy to move some bones to another location. How many egyptian mummies are scattered around the world?

**Ok. If one wanted to know what the Catholic church believes - what would you consult?**

Well, I wouldn’t be praying to Mary about it. She’s still sleeping, waiting for the trump of God to sound.


87 posted on 04/14/2013 11:29:23 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel; Dutchboy88

“YOCPIOS (your own church’s personal interpretation of scripture)”

Then show me where the bible says she died.

“She was given unprecedented favor, in that she would be used to bring forth the fleshly tabernacle of God.”

So it stands to reason then that she would be spared from Sin - such that her son would have a human nature free from sin.

“Sad that your organization won’t follow the man they claim as the first bishop, who followed Jesus Christ orders perfectly, when he ordered baptism in the NAME of JESUS. He knew the name of the Father was JESUS, for the Christ told him that he came in his Father’s name. Peter knew that the Son’s name was JESUS (duh). And Peter knew that the Holy Ghost was to be sent by the Father, in the name of Jesus. (I don’t care how old you claim your church is. Paul ran into people distorting it while on his missionary journeys)”

Ahh. You’re arguing priesthood of all believers. Where does Paul say this?

“Maybe, maybe not.”

He was crucified there. What evidence do you have saying otherwise?

“Pretty easy to move some bones to another location. How many egyptian mummies are scattered around the world?”

Well sure. Except that the Fathers came after Peter. One would think if the Fathers got it wrong, that one of the Fathers would have said so. They all say the same thing. That he was bishop of Rome, and that he was crucified in Rome.

“Ok. If one wanted to know what the Catholic church believes - what would you consult?”

This is an important question - if you don’t know, it’s ok for you to answer, “I don’t know”. What book do you consult if you want to know what the Church teaches. On anything?

This one. The catechism.

You can read it for yourself.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM


111 posted on 04/14/2013 3:58:37 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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