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To: Campion; wonkowasright
The same Augustine whom you would like to pretend rejected devotion to Mary wrote the following prayer:

Blessed Virgin Mary, who can worthily repay you with praise and thanks for having rescued a fallen world by your generous consent! Receive our gratitude, and by your prayers obtain the pardon of our sins. Take our prayers into the sanctuary of heaven and enable them to make our peace with God. Holy Mary, help the miserable, strengthen the discouraged, comfort the sorrowful, pray for your people, plead for the clergy, intercede for all women consecrated to God. May all who venerate you feel now your help and protection. Be ready to help us when we pray, and bring back to us the answers to our prayers. Make it your continual concern to pray for the people of God, for you were blessed by God and were made worthy to bear the Redeemer of the world, who lives and reigns forever. Amen

“Wherefore when the Lord appeared wonderful in the midst of the crowd, working signs and wonders, and showing what was hidden in the flesh, certain persons admiring, said, Blessed is the womb that bare thee. But he answered, Verily blessed are they who hear the word of God and keep it. That is to say, My mother, whom thou hast called blessed, is thence blessed because she keeps the word of God, not because the Word was made flesh within her.”
— Tenth treatise on the second chap of John’s Gospel

Quite a contradiction in thought there...How do you account for that???

38 posted on 04/12/2013 11:19:05 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Check out my reply to him, incase you missed it. Its from a medieval source (I posted a link), not actually from Augustine. The tipoff is that the language is way too advanced. You’ll also notice if you search the Catholic links, they usually end with “Amen” instead of a citation. It probably gets copied and pasted to the point that no one realizes it is not from Augustine.


40 posted on 04/12/2013 11:28:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Iscool
This condemnation, indeed, seems to have been providentially promulgated as though with a special view to the fraud of those who, contriving to dress up a heresy under a name other than its own, get hold often of the works of some ancient writer, not very clearly expressed, which, owing to the very obscurity of their own doctrine, have the appearance of agreeing with it, so that they get the credit of being neither the first nor the only persons who have held it. This wickedness of theirs, in my judgment, is doubly hateful: first, because they are not afraid to invite others to drink of the poison of heresy; and secondly, because with profane breath, as though fanning smouldering embers into flame, they blow upon the memory of each holy man, and spread an evil report of what ought to be buried in silence by bringing it again under notice

St. Vincent Lerin 300's.... as it was in the beginning is now...Nothing ever changes does it.....Thanks for the additional Augustine quotes...
45 posted on 04/13/2013 8:10:17 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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