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To: MarkBsnr

“Nice to see the confirmation as to your status. Mind stating your former screen name(s)?”


Nice seeing how, under pressure, you turn to accusations and claims of anti-Catholic bigotry, even when you don’t dispute the details of the statements given.

“Only if you persist in that belief. At the hour of your death, that is what God will take and Judge you with.”


Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

I’ll be confident that what God has begun in me, He will finish. The faith that I have, as has been related over and over again, is not my own work, but God who revealed Himself to me, as He does all believers.

Mat_16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

“Remember the Beatitudes? Are they only suggestions? How about the 10 Commandments?”


We’ve been over this:

Jas_2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

What need I to fear, I who loves God, by the grace of God, and loves man, by the working of God? Faith and works, inevitably, must bow to grace. These works are a reality, but they are only the fruit of what God has begun. Salvation, therefore, is by grace alone, by faith alone, without the working of the law.

Rom_11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Either salvation is wrought entirely by God, or it is by the works of the man. I for one shall believe the words of Christ on this matter.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

“he Calvinist world view is that God has selected individuals to save and the rest are damned. The Catholic worldview is that we must do as God instructs us or else we are damned. Ever read the parables in Matthew? They are most instructive.”


Who cares about world views? I don’t care about the Catholic view, or of your confused views of grace. I don’t care that they merely exist. I care about Christ’s view. Make an argument, don’t just tell me you have an opinion. Use the scripture, be serious, show me how A leads to B. Defend yourself, don’t just attack me.

“Your salvation is a done deal, right?”


Yes, who can resist the will of God?

Rom 9:14-16 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. (15) For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. (16) So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

“So, are you doing good for your own sake, or doing good because of gaining celestial brownie points, as you accuse Catholics of doing?”


What do you think, thou prattler? How many times do I have to tell you that the fruits that I have are God’s, and not my own, until you believe me?

Php 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

“The trouble with your stated position is that the Catholic position is the one that came down to us from the Apostles. “


My stated position was a direct quotation from your Pope demonstrating that you have no tradition going back to the Apostles. You have a developing papal tradition that near the end of the 6th century still did not believe in the primacy of Rome.

Looks like you really don’t read anything I say.

“You may wish to switch to Christianity at some point.”


Says the guy who has not yet made one argument using the scripture.


133 posted on 04/14/2013 2:40:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Mind stating your former screen name(s)?


143 posted on 04/14/2013 3:52:30 PM PDT by narses
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
“Nice to see the confirmation as to your status. Mind stating your former screen name(s)?”

Nice seeing how, under pressure, you turn to accusations and claims of anti-Catholic bigotry, even when you don’t dispute the details of the statements given.

Don't wish to give us your former screen name?

“Only if you persist in that belief. At the hour of your death, that is what God will take and Judge you with.”

Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

I’ll be confident that what God has begun in me, He will finish. The faith that I have, as has been related over and over again, is not my own work, but God who revealed Himself to me, as He does all believers.

Confidence, hope, perseverance. Not surety. Run the race until the end. Remember the parable of the fig tree. If it produces no fruit, it will be cut down.

What need I to fear, I who loves God, by the grace of God, and loves man, by the working of God? Faith and works, inevitably, must bow to grace. These works are a reality, but they are only the fruit of what God has begun. Salvation, therefore, is by grace alone, by faith alone, without the working of the law.

Nowhere in Scripture does it say 'faith alone'. That was an invention of Martin Luther.

Who cares about world views? I don’t care about the Catholic view, or of your confused views of grace. I don’t care that they merely exist. I care about Christ’s view. Make an argument, don’t just tell me you have an opinion. Use the scripture, be serious, show me how A leads to B. Defend yourself, don’t just attack me.

I don't need to defend myself. I am serious and use Scripture in context. I don't just trot out unconnected snippets and point to them as proofs without any connection to the arguments that I am making.<

You may wish to switch to Christianity at some point.”

Says the guy who has not yet made one argument using the scripture.

Interesting. The words of Jesus and Paul are not Scripture. May I enquire what your scripture consists of?

186 posted on 04/15/2013 10:07:00 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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